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because it could be my sister or mother?




So your telling me that sisters who wear niqaab's get seasonal affective disorder, which has nothing to do with going to the beach by the way. I also don't think that Seasonal Affective Disorder is sexist. It also happens with men.

I'm assuming niqaab is pretty much oppressing women. A sister who lives in the middle of the desert without any body of water surrounding them. They are being oppressed year long. I'm sorry I don't agree. I'm not saying to lock up your wife in a room and not let her out. What does having the wind flow through your hair have to do with anything?

Having a private pool in your house is one thing. Going to a all women beach and showing your awrah , yes even amongst women is another. Women actually feel comfortable with this?
I wonder what they did in the past. Khair, its up to them. Allahu Alam. I wouldn't recommended it to my wife.
Unless you wear hijab every time you step outside your house you wouldn't understand why it feels so good to feel the wind in your hair and to be able to relax at a beach without a ton of clothes on. Now I wouldn't wear a bikini but I'd love to have a womens only beach to goto where I could let my hair down.
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Old 08-17-2008, 06:34 PM
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Unless you wear hijab every time you step outside your house you wouldn't understand why it feels so good to feel the wind in your hair and to be able to relax at a beach without a ton of clothes on. Now I wouldn't wear a bikini but I'd love to have a womens only beach to goto where I could let my hair down.
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Unless you wear hijab every time you step outside your house you wouldn't understand why it feels so good to feel the wind in your hair and to be able to relax at a beach without a ton of clothes on. Now I wouldn't wear a bikini but I'd love to have a womens only beach to goto where I could let my hair down.
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because it could be my sister or mother?

do your sister and mother go to this beach?
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So your telling me that sisters who wear niqaab's get seasonal affective disorder, which has nothing to do with going to the beach by the way. I also don't think that Seasonal Affective Disorder is sexist. It also happens with men.
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I'm assuming niqaab is pretty much oppressing women. A sister who lives in the middle of the desert without any body of water surrounding them. They are being oppressed year long. I'm sorry I don't agree. I'm not saying to lock up your wife in a room and not let her out. What does having the wind flow through your hair have to do with anything?
I never said niqab was oppressive. I've worn niqab. I've also had SAD. Feeling the sun on your skin and the wind in your hair is important. Why do you wish to deny women the beauty of the creation of Allah (swt) by restricting them in such a manner that they can't feel it?

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Having a private pool in your house is one thing. Going to a all women beach and showing your awrah , yes even amongst women is another. Women actually feel comfortable with this? I wonder what they did in the past. Khair, its up to them. Allahu Alam. I wouldn't recommended it to my wife.
If their awra is covered, then what's the problem? I'll tell you what ladies did in the past, because they still do it today. NWFP, Pakistan, is generally very conservative. There is a nice tall wall around your house which allows ladies to go outside without worrying about non-mahram seeing her. This setup doesn't exist in the west, or even in parts of the Middle East these days due to overpopulation. If you are strict with your hijab, you cannot go outside your house with that kind of freedom in the west. Freedom is important.

Since you're a man though, I can't really expect you to understand.
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Assalamo Alaikum,

because it could be my sister or mother?




So your telling me that sisters who wear niqaab's get seasonal affective disorder, which has nothing to do with going to the beach by the way. I also don't think that Seasonal Affective Disorder is sexist. It also happens with men.

I'm assuming niqaab is pretty much oppressing women. A sister who lives in the middle of the desert without any body of water surrounding them. They are being oppressed year long. I'm sorry I don't agree. I'm not saying to lock up your wife in a room and not let her out. What does having the wind flow through your hair have to do with anything?

Having a private pool in your house is one thing. Going to a all women beach and showing your awrah , yes even amongst women is another. Women actually feel comfortable with this?
I wonder what they did in the past. Khair, its up to them. Allahu Alam. I wouldn't recommended it to my wife.
If there awrah's are covered, then whats the beef?
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No beef. Bikini.
Please don't ever wear one. Ever. Nobody looks good in bikini's, especially not hairy men.
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No beef. Bikini.
I agree, the bikinis are problematic. But if they've got their awrahs covered, they can technically go topless, no?
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I agree, the bikinis are problematic. But if they've got their awrahs covered, they can technically go topless, no?
actually... yes they can.
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I agree, the bikinis are problematic. But if they've got their awrahs covered, they can technically go topless, no?
Topless as in, Hijab/Niqaab you mean, right....
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Topless as in, Hijab/Niqaab you mean, right....
If a women's awrah in front of another women is navel to knees, then technically speaking, they can go topless.

Anyhow, in terms of the permissibility of going to the beach like this, thats a fiqh issue.
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If a women's awrah in front of another women is navel to knees, then technically speaking, they can go topless.

Anyhow, in terms of the permissibility of going to the beach like this, thats a fiqh issue.
Yes technically but my understanding is that the main reason why it's as low as the navel is so that women can conveniently nurse their children in front of other women. But oh let's not get into the whole nursing in public bit because eeewwww grooosssszzzz lolz.
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Yes technically but my understanding is that the main reason why it's as low as the navel is so that women can conveniently nurse their children in front of other women. But oh let's not get into the whole nursing in public bit because eeewwww grooosssszzzz lolz.
nursing in public is so nasty. its like peeing in public.. lolzz.
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