[zeyneddine]

Originally Posted by TrentReznor858

not sure what the censored word is, but my spelling is great in those posts. Also, this isnt english class.

This also isnt an excercise in organization skills. "For the record, get out more thanks".

[TrentReznor858]

Originally Posted by zeyneddine

This also isnt an excercise in organization skills. "For the record, get out more thanks".

the hell are you talking about? Are you just slamming your head on the keyboard? Anyway.....I explained my way of responding to posts because you are too daft to understand what I was saying. I wasnt "giving a lesson." and what do you mean by that last part?

[zeyneddine]

Originally Posted by TrentReznor858

the hell are you talking about? Are you just slamming your head on the keyboard? Anyway.....I explained my way of responding to posts because you are too daft to understand what I was saying. I wasnt "giving a lesson." and what do you mean by that last part?

hahahahhaaaaaaahahha.
I just posted like you do. I just have the same reaction reading your post... chill out bro. its not a pissing contest. you're entitled to your views.

[Timbit]

Originally Posted by zeyneddine

Your last para is a good opinion. However, what would you do if your past is checkered? Would you settle for less?

I'm sorry, I don't understand the question.

Originally Posted by TrentReznor858

He might have great stamina, may practice masturbation techniques, or may not even be as heterosexual as he might think. Really has nothing to do with experience.

So if she is actually attracted to you and makes aggressive moves, you assume she has had previous partners? good luck with that.

Lyke omg, whoa... TrentReznor858 and I agree on something.

That's exactly what I was gonna say in response to each of his points (well, not the "he's not as heterosexual as he might think" I never thought of that. Could be he's just read up on techniques), but I thought I'd get people telling me I'm too besharam again.

It could just be that she actually likes you (if she doesn't love you, that is) and if you've gotten to know each other before the shaadi, could be she actually feels comfortable enough with you to initiate sexual behaviour. Geez... it is your wife, you know; she's entitled. Could be that she has desires too ( shock shock, horror horror). Could be she knows you're shy and so she's making it a little easier for you. Just count your blessings if you get a wife like that; there's no need to get suspicious. What's wrong with you people? And even if the thought does cross your mind that your spouse is maybe more experienced than they admitted, why not give them 72 excuses?

EDIT: 70 excuses apparently; 72 is the number of VIRGIN hurs you get. Thanks, lurking buddy!

[Aryan_]

The best solution is for everyone (well, me) to go back to their native countries and marry someone who has never left their village / jungle clearing. Not only will the issue of virginity not be a problem, but cooking and cleaning skills and overall obedience will be better.

[zzze]

assalamu alaykum

i dont know where u guys hang out...i dont understand ur concerns about x muslim girl's virginity. You just have to do a little investigating to know about a girl's character and her past.

[zeyneddine]

Originally Posted by Timbit

I'm sorry, I don't understand the question.

I meant that if your past is squeeky clean, would you be happy with someone who's past isnt?

[zeyneddine]

Originally Posted by zzze

assalamu alaykum

i dont know where u guys hang out...i dont understand ur concerns about x muslim girl's virginity. You just have to do a little investigating to know about a girl's character and her past.

Walaikum assalam.

In the context of this thread, we're just debating/discussing whether a person's fornication is of relevance or not. Some say you dont need to even question it, others say it shouldnt matter, and yet others say it is of relevance.

I agree with what you said: investigating a girl's character and past is not really difficult. That itself would give you answer to the question, innit sis?

[ChotooMotoo]

Originally Posted by zzze

assalamu alaykum

i dont know where u guys hang out...i dont understand ur concerns about x muslim girl's virginity. You just have to do a little investigating to know about a girl's character and her past.

Some men are just obsessed with the topic. My sis and I read "Memoirs of a Geisha" at the same time when I was a teenager. Her comment was "You know the book was written by a man because at least half of the book was devoted to how the girl lost her virginity"

So true.

[Timbit]

Originally Posted by zeyneddine

I meant that if your past is squeeky clean, would you be happy with someone who's past isnt?

Yes. I swear I answered this question already. I would be completely okay with it if they'd repented and changed. That's why it's called the past. Why let it have any bearing on your future together?

I can understand why people would be upset about it and I would be too (of course, that's only natural. Who wouldn't be at least a little jealous?) if I had to know all the details, but what he did and with whom is not something I would inquire about. I honestly don't think it would do me any good to know. Just the opposite, actually. It would be enough for me to know he has done some questionable things in the distant past and is perhaps not a virgin, but is a better person now (with a clean bill of health, medically certified ).

I used to think differently but, like I said, I've met quite a few people who have checkered pasts (and have no problem admitting it) but are, MashaAllah, amazing people and good Muslims now.

[LEGALEAGLE]

Originally Posted by Jaysh

This is NOT correct, bro. The reason the Quran says 'none shall marry her but a fornicator or an idolator' is because the Nikah contract is INVALID, so if a Muslim man marries her, then the marriage is INVALID so he is just doing ZINNAH with her and has thus become a fornicator as well. Or alternatively, the person denies that the marriage is INVALID and refuses to obey Allah [swt], in which case he is a mushrik.

I hope this makes it clear bro.

But please read this link to make it clearer insha-Allah:

Islam Question and Answer - It is not permissible to marry a zaani or zaaniyah unless they have repented

Now you have it right.

[Aryan_]

Originally Posted by ChotooMotoo

Some men are just obsessed with the topic. My sis and I read "Memoirs of a Geisha" at the same time when I was a teenager. Her comment was "You know the book was written by a man because at least half of the book was devoted to how the girl lost her virginity"

So true.

Says the girl who read a book about it.