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What if his future MIL bought him a book before the nikkah so that she wouldn't have to comfort her daughter the day after.... just sayin'.....
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What if his future MIL bought him a book before the nikkah so that she wouldn't have to comfort her daughter the day after.... just sayin'.....
KNowing guys like Z and Jaysh, they would probably think the MIL is sleeping around
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i haven't read any of the previous posts much really, but i'm not surprised this thread is so long lol...

the fact that women have to go to these lengths to maintain a standard that society has set points towards underlying problems in regards to the general mentality of people...people have the option of choosing from one thing or another and if they want to do something, they will pay for the consequences that arise from their actions...

hence, why does it matter if this is accessible to women? we can get into lengthy speeches about religion, society, morals, etc etc about how good or bad this is...but in the end, people should just try to do good for those around them and try to at least assure that they have tried to instill positive values in a young impressionable person in the hopes that they do not succumb to immoral behavior. whatever happens afterwards...will happen.

perhaps this is too simplistic, but this problem has been around for as long as humanity has been around more or less so we should ultimately accept the fact that humanity is inherently flawed, yet through positive influences we have the choice to do good. that's it. that's one way at least. live and let live. whatever.

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This has to take the award for one of the most ridiculous replies ever. Lets pull a TrentReznor on you and quote your reply out of context.


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factual proof to back up your some losers on a friday night makes me wonder why clueless things in a book doesnt always translate into reality. Besides, a part of personal likes and dislikes may practice masturbation techniques, or has nothing to do with experience.
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i haven't read any of the previous posts much really, but i'm not surprised this thread is so long lol...

the fact that women have to go to these lengths to maintain a standard that society has set points towards underlying problems in regards to the general mentality of people...people have the option of choosing from one thing or another and if they want to do something, they will pay for the consequences that arise from their actions...

hence, why does it matter if this is accessible to women? we can get into lengthy speeches about religion, society, morals, etc etc about how good or bad this is...but in the end, people should just try to do good for those around them and try to at least assure that they have tried to instill positive values in a young impressionable person in the hopes that they do not succumb to immoral behavior. whatever happens afterwards...will happen.

perhaps this is too simplistic, but this problem has been around for as long as humanity has been around more or less so we should ultimately accept the fact that humanity is inherently flawed, yet through positive influences we have the choice to do good. that's it. that's one way at least. live and let live. whatever.

wa salam
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This has to take the award for one of the most ridiculous replies ever. Lets pull a TrentReznor on you and quote your reply out of context.
Your reply makes us much sense as ^^^
Remember now kids, ESL is your friend. Anyway, since you seem unable to comprehend what I was saying, lets try it again from the top.

People (borrowing from Shotgun, who refused to call them men) who look down on women who arent virgins are idiots who belong in the stone age.
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Remember now kids, ESL is your friend. Anyway, since you seem unable to comprehend what I was saying, lets try it again from the top.

People (borrowing from Shotgun, who refused to call them men) who look down on women who arent virgins are idiots who belong in the stone age.
Ok, a two line sentence from you DOES make more sense than having multiple nested quotes taken out of context.

If I am not mistaken, I think God certainly does look down upon fornicators. Hence we should to. Of course He can forgive the repenter. But remember, He can. Not He will. And if you have been saving yourself for a partner, you certainly should be wanting the same from your partner.

Now if I am living in the stone age because of that view, so be it. If you're an enlightened 21st Century kid, more power to you
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Remember now kids, ESL is your friend. Anyway, since you seem unable to comprehend what I was saying, lets try it again from the top.

People (borrowing from Shotgun, who refused to call them men) who look down on women who arent virgins are idiots who belong in the stone age.
Especially when the same could be considered for men as well, who, no offense guys, tend to be the ones who get the most out of the whole "sowing wild oats" cliche. this double standard is tiring. but that's another topic altogether.

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Ok, a two line sentence from you DOES make more sense than having multiple nested quotes taken out of context.
They were not taken out of context. Which you prove by your own admission:
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If I am not mistaken, I think God certainly does look down upon fornicators.
NO **** sherlocke. That doesnt mean ALL women who arent virgins are fornicators, and ALL women who are virgins are pure. For the record, I highly doubt a women who fornicates on a regular basis would be interested in marrying a 35 year old virgin engineer, but to each his own.
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Hence we should to.
Ummmmmmm no. Allah says to HELP your muslim brothers and sisters. Looking down upon fornicators is not the solution. It ostracizes them from the community, and romanticizes the concept of fornication in the eyes of the youth. People have sexual desires, some ALOT stronger than others. looking down upon people who act upon their natural urges is not going to change anything or make our lives any easier or better.
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Of course He can forgive the repenter. But remember, He can. Not He will.
That is between Allah and the fornicator. Nowhere in there does it say "So go ahead and be a judgemental ***** for Allah knows best".
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And if you have been saving yourself for a partner, you certainly should be wanting the same from your partner.
Once again that is subjective. If you are so insecure that you think you couldnt handle someone with previous experience, haraam or not, that doesnt give you the right to look down upon your fellow muslim sisters and consider them beneath you or damaged goods.
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Now if I am living in the stone age because of that view, so be it. If you're an enlightened 21st Century kid, more power to you
Typical response. Stop regurgitating what you heard at jumah thanks.
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Do you have issues with normal replies or can you only reply to one line at a time?
A) Just because I pwned you twice you dont have to cry about it.
B) I ORGANIZE my replies on a sentence by sentence basis. That way you know what specific sentence I am replying to. Keeps things simple.
C) Get out more thanks.
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A) Just because I pwned you twice you dont have to cry about it.
B) I ORGANIZE my replies on a sentence by sentence basis. That way you know what specific sentence I am replying to. Keeps things simple.
C) Get out more thanks.
A) WOW U OWN3D MA U R MAZNG U R TEH L33T.
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B) While your organization skills are excellent, in a normal conversation, you reply to the entire post keeping in mind the context.
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Ummmm this isnt a normal conversation, this is a forum. Technically, I DID reply to the entire post, just in an ORGANIZED fashion.
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Ummmm this isnt a normal conversation, this is a forum. Technically, I DID reply to the entire post, just in an ORGANIZED fashion.
Alright dude, you're right, I'm wrong, your post was most enlightning, peppered with multiple ***** and misspellings but superbly organized. I'm not bothered.
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