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Re: Alexander the Great
it is said that people from Kalash Valley are descendants of Alexander the Great.
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edit: just read the link you posted...so it's true
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05-03-2008, 06:03 PM
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it is said that people from Kalash Valley are descendants of Alexander the Great.
any thoughts?
edit: just read the link you posted...so it's true
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Its possible, i dunno about direct descendants of the man himself but probably of the ancient greek/Macedonian invaders.
Its not true if the link is correct as Alexander wasn't Greek, he was Macedonian
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05-03-2008, 06:09 PM
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Re: Alexander the Great
yeah they share a lot with Macedonian not with present day greeks, however thier language is still a myestery and doesn't seem to belong to any group in the region.
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05-03-2008, 06:11 PM
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Haplogroup 21 was frequent in the Greeks but in these Pakistani populations was found only in the Pathans. Based upon haplogroup frequencies, 65-88% Greek admixture was estimated for the Kalash, consistent with a Greek origin for a significant proportion of Kalash Y chomosomes. However, the Kalash lack haplogroup 21 chromosomes and appeared distinct from the Greeks based upon principal components analysis of haplogroup frequencies and weighted population pairwise FST values based on STR variation within Y Haplogroups. They clearly contain a substantial proportion of Pakistani Y chromosomes, illustrated by their high frequency of hg 28, and the true Greek contribution remains uncertain. Estimates of Greek Y admixture for the Pathans were about 10%, and for the Burusho were close to zero. Median-joining networks of STR haplotypes revealed considerable sub-structuring of Y variation within the Kalash and Burusho, and in particular the haplogroup 21 network showed that the Pathan chromosomes were closely related to the central Greek cluster. Thus a small Greek contribution to the Pathans seems likely, the contribution to the Kalash is unclear and no contribution to the Burusho could be detected.
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05-11-2008, 11:35 AM
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also there is a great misconception that alexander invaded present day india. Present day indian land was never invaded by the greek army, alexanders most eastern post was at sialkot in pakistan. The reasons are unknown why he didn't go further east
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Genghis Khan created a larger empire. Plus the Mongols eventually preserved Islam by converting to it.
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^ mongols destryoed most of the islamic universities of the middle east
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Genghis Khan created a larger empire. Plus the Mongols eventually preserved Islam by converting to it.
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Genghis Khan didn't create an empire he just looted and destroyed big parts of Middle East. Rambo mentioned it too in the previous message. Plus in the time of Alexander Macedonians had civilization and in the time of Genghis Khan Huns, Mongols(or whatever Central Asian tribe they were) lacked one. So the area pased by Ghengis Khan might be bigger(like a balloon) but didn't last like any other known empire.
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05-28-2008, 11:10 PM
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I like how you seem to be having a conversation with yourself.
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i haven't seen the movie but that was pretty crappy.
poor elephants 
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I like how you seem to be having a conversation with yourself.
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LOL. at least the conversation is interesting
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i haven't seen the movie but that was pretty crappy.
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Alexander defeated every one in his way, only Porus, the king of Punjab was the one who came close to defeating him. Some historians say this was the main reason Alexander didn't go any further eastwards, he lost too many men during this great battle. |
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