The Urdu Thread

[Timbit]

Originally Posted by Spice

One of my faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaavourites.
YouTube - kyun humse khafa mehndi hassan

aaya hai kisse raas judai ka yeh aalam?
tarpein ge akele mein udhar aap, idhar hum
dil dil se, meri jan, mila kyun nahin lete?
bheege hue mausam ka maza kyun nahin lete?

kyun hum se khafa ho gaye, ae jaan-e-tamana?

Must. Spread. Rep.

[Abu_Hind]

There is an urdu thread! Awesome.

Originally Posted by the_wrong_guy

Aap lohgon ka andaz e takallum hamae bohat pasand aya. Aap maen se baz lohg bohot saliqay ke sath Urdu maen guftugu ki isteta'at rakhte haen. Yae jan kar hamaen beinteha khushi hai.

Bhaai jaan iss mein khushi ki kiya baat hai? Jahan tak humain nazar aata hai ya mehsoos hota hai, yehan per jo 'awaamil urdu kay guftugu mein laai jaa rahain haain woh urdu zabaan kay liye sharam say doob marne waali baat haai. Urdu ek tehzeeeb waali zabaan hai. Hume iss key adab or shaa'iri key baray mein guftugu karni chahiye naakay fuzool ganon ki hosla afzaai?

Anyway anyone seen this book:

Amazon.com: Lucknow City of Illusion: Rosie Llewellyn-Jones: Books

[Abu_Hind]

As a kid I used to read Ishtiaq Ahmed, I really loved his Inspector Jamshed books. I still do. On Ishtiaq Ahmed:

Over dinner sometime last week, conversation turned to an apparent lack of reading culture in Pakistan. Participants questioned if anybody went to the bookstores any more, and why Urdu bazaars in large cities remained largely deserted until the school seasons came (though I was told Lahore now has some nice book stores). All the talk about developing reading habits in children reminded me of one of my favorite authors from childhood: Ishtiaq Ahmed.

Before there were J.R.R.Tolkien, J.K. Rowling, Hardy Boys or even Archies Comics in my life, there was Ishtiaq Ahmed: a brilliant mastermind who authored hundreds, if not thousands, of suspense thriller novels in Urdu for kids during the 1970s, 80’s and into the 1990s. (I am told the actual number is closer to 400).

It is hard not to say that I grew up wanting to be like Mahmood, Farooque aur Farzana, the three main characters in his most famous series: Inspector Jamshed. Many of us will remember owning crates full of Ishtiaq Ahmed books – kids in my mohalla even organized a book club where we loaned our Ishtiaq Ahmed books to each other for 25 paisas per novel.

Ishtiaq Ahmed was one hell of a prolific writer. His books were published at a rate faster than I could save money from my lunch allowance to buy them (hence the need for the Mohalla library!). My mamoon swore by Ibn-e-Safi’s Imran series, but Ishtiaq Ahmed was the one who got me hooked onto reading. I remember reading his Khaas (special) novels with more than 2000-3000 pages until late into the night. He was among the most effective and successful Jasoosi novelists in Pakistan.

Even though his detective teams also included Inspector Kamran and the Shoki brothers, it was the Inspector Jamshed team (and the series built around their escapades to protect world peace) that captured the imagination of several generations in Pakistan. The series featured a detective, inspector Jamshed, who solved crimes with the help of his three children, Mehmood, Farooq & Farzana. Inspector Jameshed hated evil and in his crime-fighting he had not only his children to help, but also a retired army officer, Khan Rehman, and Professor Daod.

If I remember correctly, Mehmood was always the smart one, the trio’s leader with brilliant ideas, Farooque was the street smart, witty one, and Farzana always knew when danger was lurking around the corner. And the evil? Jaral, who appeared in several novels, was the number one enemy. Inspector Jamshed’s enemies were not just after money or power - they were morally corrupt and somehow always had some external forces helping them in their evil plans. It has been said that Ishtiaq Ahmed was not very subtle in disguising his resentment towards states or actors that he deemed anti-Islamic.

Ishtiaq Ahmed created characters that were larger than life - but they were inspirational for young men and women of that age and time. Inspector Jamshed, Mehmood, Farooq and Fazana were heroes, who were smart, witty, brave, and fought for the righteousness. Ishtiaq Ahmed wrote beautifully in a language that many now do not study for its poetry or prose. His contribution to Urdu literature, unfortunately, has not been acclaimed in a deserving manner, but his fans remember him well.

Statements like “Inspector Jamshed kee Uqaabee nigahon ney mauqay kee nazakat ko bhaanp liyaa” are a distant memory, but still a charming one. Maybe my kids will also dig through my stash of Ishtiaq Ahmed novels like I went through my mother collection of Pakeeza digests. They will find lots of incredible stories. And they will learn why I love the Urdu language.

For the uninitiated and the fans, a website advertises that you can buy his novel there. Alternatively, contact Feroze Sons in Lahore.
LINK: http://pakistaniat.com/2006/08/02/gu...ector-jamshed/

[Abu_Hind]

Shahab Nama by Qudrutullah Shihab:

Shahab Nama by Qudrutullah Shahab

One of those books that I thoroughly enjoyed reading. It is an autobiographical account. Check the link.

[caffienetime]

i read urdu digests only when i am bored though. but i can speak complicated urdu, i dont know big words

[the_wrong_guy]

Mohtaram Pidar/Abbujan e Mulk o Millat,

Originally Posted by Abu_Hind

Bhaai jaan iss mein khushi ki kiya baat hai? Jahan tak humain nazar aata hai ya mehsoos hota hai, yehan per jo 'awaamil urdu kay guftugu mein laai jaa rahain haain woh urdu zabaan kay liye sharam say doob marne waali baat haai. Urdu ek tehzeeeb waali zabaan hai. Hume iss key adab or shaa'iri key baray mein guftugu karni chahiye naakay fuzool ganon ki hosla afzaai?

Lagta hai apki tawajjoh dhagay ki ibteda-i posts ki taraf nahi gayi. Unmae salees zuban ka istaemal kiya gaya hai. Mera comment unn posts say muta'alleq tha.

Baz ganon maen khubsurti aur hikmat kay anaser paye jatay haen. Iss dhagay maen post kiye gaye ganon ki taraf meri tawajjoh nahi gayi. Fursat mili to shayad unn posts ko parhun aur tabsara karun.

Originally Posted by Abu_Hind

Shahab Nama by Qudrutullah Shihab:

Shahab Nama by Qudrutullah Shahab

One of those books that I thoroughly enjoyed reading. It is an autobiographical account. Check the link.

Shahab Nama ka shuru ka hissa bohat mazedar hai. Unka bachpan pur-lutf qisson se bhara hua hai.

[Abu_Hind]

Originally Posted by the_wrong_guy

Mohtaram Pidar/Abbujan e Mulk o Millat,


Lagta hai apki tawajjoh dhagay ki ibteda-i posts ki taraf nahi gayi. Unmae salees zuban ka istaemal kiya gaya hai. Mera comment unn posts say muta'alleq tha.

Baz ganon maen khubsurti aur hikmat kay anaser paye jatay haen. Iss dhagay maen post kiye gaye ganon ki taraf meri tawajjoh nahi gayi. Fursat mili to shayad unn posts ko parhun aur tabsara karun.

Janab-e-mohtaram azeez dost ghalat-banda saheb,

Adaab,

Aap ka khiyal bilkul bajaa hai, humaain is dhagaay ki shuruwaat kay jaaizay ka mawqah nahin millaa. Agar aap ka isharaa un khiyalat ki taraf tha to mein mu'azarat khuwa hoon.

Salees urdu aj ki zaroorat hai keunke ab bohat son ko urdu ki khas samajh bojh bilkul nahin rahi. Khas tor peh iss liye ke angrezi aur badsoorat hindi zabaan nay apna dhawaa her taraf bol diya hai.

Ganon mein kahs kar ke ghazalon mein rooh ko taskeen pohnchanay walay anaasir zaroor ho saktay hain, apna tabsara bilkul ki jiye ga, hum mustafeed hona chahtay hain.

Shahab Nama ka shuru ka hissa bohat mazedar hai. Unka bachpan pur-lutf qisson se bhara hua hai.

Mujhe bhoot wali kahani aur un ka jo waqt arab duniya mein guzra kaafi mazedar lagay. Shihab nama parhay kafi waqt ho gaya hai, irada hai keh iss ko dobara khola jaay.

Aap bhee apni pasndeeda urdu adab ki tasneefat ka tazkara zaroor humarai darmiyan bantiye. Shukriya.

[Spice]

Khush amdeed, ghalat huzoor,
Humein ma'loom hi nahin tha ke ap ka andaaz-e-guftugu itna vaa'zieh hai. Achi baat hai, aap yahan likhte rahay to hum bhi aap se kuch na kuch seekh lein ge.

Aap walid e Hind ki baaton per yaqeen na karna, yeh shakhs to pagal hai . Khud parh ker tassalli karein.
Kyoon na aap is per tabbsura farmein, kiya kharabi dikhai deti hai aap ko is gaane ke alfaaz mein?: YouTube - Awaz Deke Hume Tum Bulao-- Professor

Also, what posts were you referring to specifically? Some of the earlier attempts are hilarious

[the_wrong_guy]

Originally Posted by Abu_Hind

Aap bhee apni pasndeeda urdu adab ki tasneefat ka tazkara zaroor humarai darmiyan bantiye. Shukriya.

Badqisamti se, Urdu parhne maen mujhe qabil e qadr diqqat ka samna karna parta hai. Aaj tak chund kitabaen hi parhi haen, aur sirf iss wajah se parhin kyunke unka subject matter mere liyaen khas taur par interesting tha. Ye kitabaen darj zail haen:

- Karwan e Zindagi, Khudnawishth Sawanih e Hayat Maulana Syed Abul Hasan Ali Nadwi (Autobiography of Ali Mian (ra)) - Part 1
- Khurram Murad: Hayat o Khidmaat (Agar is kitab ko parh kar ankhaen num nahi hoteen, to yaqinan apka dil dil nahi, patthar hai)
- Lamhaat by Khurram Murad
- Muhammad bin Qasim by Nasim Hijazi.

Kuch kitabaen bachpan maen walida mohtarma se suni haen, jinmaen Shahab Nama (ka kuch hissa) aur Nasim Hijazi saheb ki deegar tasanif shamil hai.

Originally Posted by Spice

Khush amdeed, ghalat huzoor,
Humein ma'loom hi nahin tha ke ap ka andaaz-e-guftugu itna vaa'zieh hai. Achi baat hai, aap yahan likhte rahay to hum bhi aap se kuch na kuch seekh lein ge.

Aap walid e Hind ki baaton per yaqeen na karna, yeh shakhs to pagal hai . Khud parh ker tassalli karein.
Kyoon na aap is per tabbsura farmein, kiya kharabi dikhai deti hai aap ko is gaane ke alfaaz mein?: YouTube - Awaz Deke Hume Tum Bulao-- Professor

Also, what posts were you referring to specifically? Some of the earlier attempts are hilarious

Qabil e Ehteram Behn Masala,

Apki iss hausla-afzai ke liyaen mai apka mamnun o mashkur hun.

Agar ap gaane ke lyrics post (ya link) kar detin to bari mehrbani hoti.

Mai Jamroll bhai, Timbit, Shahrukh, Sally, Aap aur IbnM ki kuch posts ki taraf ishara kar raha tha.

[Timbit]

Originally Posted by the_wrong_guy

Mai Jamroll bhai, Timbit, Shahrukh, Sally, Aap aur IbnM ki kuch posts ki taraf ishara kar raha tha.

Mujhe aap ki baat sun kar bohut khushi hoti, lekin aap ne IbnM Bhai ka naam bhi beech mein shaamil kar diya.


Aur aap ne Abu Hind Bhai ka naam tau Urdu mein tabdeel kar diya, tau baaki sab ke bhi karye na.

[Abu_Hind]

Originally Posted by Spice

Aap walid e Hind ki baaton per yaqeen na karna, yeh shakhs to pagal hai . Khud parh ker tassalli karein.

Mohtarma Lal Mirch Sahiba,

jab qatra samandar say mila to samandar ho gaya

aur jab 'aashiq jo maut say milaa qalandar ho gaya

Originally Posted by the_wrong_guy

Badqisamti se, Urdu parhne maen mujhe qabil e qadr diqqat ka samna karna parta hai. Aaj tak chund kitabaen hi parhi haen, aur sirf iss wajah se parhin kyunke unka subject matter mere liyaen khas taur par interesting tha. Ye kitabaen darj zail haen:

Mian Ghalat banda saheb adaab arz hai,

Humara bhee bus aisa hee haal hai. Zaroorat to iss cheez ki hai keh urdu aur parhi jaai.

- Karwan e Zindagi, Khudnawishth Sawanih e Hayat Maulana Syed Abul Hasan Ali Nadwi (Autobiography of Ali Mian (ra)) - Part 1
- Khurram Murad: Hayat o Khidmaat (Agar is kitab ko parh kar ankhaen num nahi hoteen, to yaqinan apka dil dil nahi, patthar hai)
- Lamhaat by Khurram Murad
- Muhammad bin Qasim by Nasim Hijazi.

Masha Allah aap ka zauq kaafi 'umdaah hai. Maulama Ali Mian ki kitaab "Islami mazaj ka rikhwalay' jo teen jildon per mushtamil hai, abhee main nay haal hee main kahreedi hai. Mein urdu mein yeh kitaab dhoondnay saay qasir raha iss liye angrezi tarjuma say istifadah kia hai. Maulana sahib (ra) unn chand ek islami hastion mein shumaar hotay hain jinn ko mein bohat pasand aur ehtram ki nazron say dekhta hoon.

Qabil e Ehteram Behn Masala,

Apki iss hausla-afzai ke liyaen mai apka mamnun o mashkur hun.

Agar ap gaane ke lyrics post (ya link) kar detin to bari mehrbani hoti.

Mai Jamroll bhai, Timbit, Shahrukh, Sally, Aap aur IbnM ki kuch posts ki taraf ishara kar raha tha.

Ghatiya ganay murda bad!

[Ayooshi]

Asalamu Alaikum,

Aap saab key hesaab seh, meri urdu bohoth fazool hai.

Fi AmanAllah

[bluey]

Stop talking like you guys are in Urdu Class, yeesh. I'm having to double read everything to understand what's being said.

[the_wrong_guy]

Originally Posted by Timbit

Mujhe aap ki baat sun kar bohut khushi hoti, lekin aap ne IbnM Bhai ka naam bhi beech mein shaamil kar diya.


Aur aap ne Abu Hind Bhai ka naam tau Urdu mein tabdeel kar diya, tau baaki sab ke bhi karye na.

Maine pichli post maen Spice ko Masala ke naam se yad kiya tha.

Apka israr hai isliyaen digar khawatin o hazraat ke SNs ka Urdu tarjuma pesh karta hun:

Jamroll: Murabbay ka Roll
Timbit: Mardana Punjabi Khatoon
Shahrukh: Badshah ke Rukhsar, Langra(lame) Bollywood Adakar
Sally: Urdu for sister-in-law; translation not required
Ibn Mardhiyah: Mardhiyah ka Bachcha


Janab Hindustan ke Abba,

Saviors of the Islamic Spirit bahot achchi kitab hai. Iska asl naam "Tarikh e Dawat o Azeemat" hai, aur yeh 6 jildon per mushtamil hai.

[Abu_Hind]

Originally Posted by the_wrong_guy

Janab Hindustan ke Abba,

Saviors of the Islamic Spirit bahot achchi kitab hai. Iska asl naam "Tarikh e Dawat o Azeemat" hai, aur yeh 6 jildon per mushtamil hai.

Oh to isska matlab hai keh angrezi tarjumah yaqeenan mukhtasar ho ga. Keunke dar ul-ishaat ka angrezi tarjuma teen jildon mein hai.