[Jamroll]

Originally Posted by Variable

Sorry, it's type I - removal of the clitoral hood.

Type I, type II, sounds like diabetes.

My personal view is that people should leave this old school cultural practice.

[Revert]

I don't understand the whole Female Circumcision thing...It doesn't seem like it would benefit anyone...Allah knows best.

Even from the "discussion" in this thread, nothing has convinced em what sp ever that its something I would want my (inshaAllah) daughter to ever have done.

[Jamroll]

Originally Posted by Revert

I don't understand the whole Female Circumcision thing...It doesn't seem like it would benefit anyone...Allah knows best.

Even from the "discussion" in this thread, nothing has convinced em what sp ever that its something I would want my (inshaAllah) daughter to ever have done.

Yeah me neither.

I think it's a case of Islam being lenient on some pre-Islamic cultural practices, with proviso's. Whilst there's no mention of female circumcision anywhere in the Qur'an, supporters of the practice point to a Prophetic hadith where the Prophet permitted the practice to take place, but qualified it by telling them not to cut the clitoris, but only the foreskin, i.e. the prepuce. Even though most scholars deem the integrity of the hadith to be pretty weak, it's still used to continue the practice.

But yeah, I agree with you, mate. I think even the Africans who live in the West now, should phase out, or better still abandon this practice from the old world.

[Variable]

Originally Posted by Revert

I don't understand the whole Female Circumcision thing...It doesn't seem like it would benefit anyone...Allah knows best.

Interestingly there are people who can't understand why one wouldn't want it. (they have their list of stated benefits too) One of those things that keeps me interested in the human race.

[Kona_Silat]

Originally Posted by Revert

I don't understand the whole Female Circumcision thing...It doesn't seem like it would benefit anyone...Allah knows best.

Even from the "discussion" in this thread, nothing has convinced em what sp ever that its something I would want my (inshaAllah) daughter to ever have done.

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[Salahadeen]

Dear brothers and sisters in Islam,

I am about to post a fatwa approved by the esteemed Shaykh Salman al-Oudah. The fatwa concludes that the hadeeths which encourage female circumcision are weak. Interesting is the fact that he actually quotes classical scholars to this effect, such as Ibn Hajar, which rules out the possibility--or at least makes it less likely--that this is mere "modernism".

Nonetheless, even though I am posting such a fatwa, I think we should all be very careful and cautious when we are so vehemently vocal about a thing on which there is doubt. We agree that Islam only condones the trimming of the tip of the clitoral head, which does not carry any medical risks to it nor does it classify as part of genital mutilation. Therefore, this is not something that we need to get all riled up about.

We need to realize that the enemies of Islam try to use this issue in order to attack Islam itself. Therefore, instead of joining them in this, we should remind these people that even if we accept these hadeeths, then this is clearly not FGM...it is not unhealthy and therefore any emotional arguments are unfitting.

I disagree with those who say this is type 1 FGM, but I may be wrong about this. What is known in the Shafi'i school of thought is merely the trimming of the tip of the clitoral head.

Another thing I think is that we should be angered by the Western people who are attacking our Indonesian sisters. The article was very misleading and biased. The Indonesian women made it clear that what they were doing was only slight trimming, not FGM! Instead, the article twisted the matter, and started talking about FGM! We should hate them for these lies levied against our Muslim sisters.

Fatwa can be found here:

Islamtoday.com: Female Circumcision & Islam

EDIT: One more thing. I am not sure about the ruling. I take no opinion on the matter, since I am not a scholar, and I've seen differing opinions.

[Variable]

Originally Posted by Salahadeen

We agree that Islam only condones the trimming of the tip of the clitoral head[b], which does not carry any medical risks to it nor does it classify as part of genital mutilation. Therefore, this is not something that we need to get all riled up about.

Are you a doctor? Have you had it done?

[iSHi]

I was just reading some fatwa's on this topic. I personally would never do it to my daughter.

A hadith on the topic of female circumcision has been attributed to the Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon Him), according to which he said: "Circumcision is a Sunnah for men, and an honour for women," but there is some debate as to the authenticity of this hadith. See Silsilah al-Ahadith al-Da‘ifah by al-Albani, no. 1935.

There are reports in the Sunnah which indicate that circumcision for women is prescribed in Islam. In Madeenah there was a woman who circumcised women and the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to her: “Do not go to the extreme in cutting; that is better for the woman and more liked by the husband.” Narrated by Abu Dawood (5271), classed as saheeh by Shaykh al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood.