Indian Muslim Charity

[GOTFIVEONIT]

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im often accused of ranting and raving, you are daaam right im proud to rant and rave about poverty and hunger in our ummah!!!!

I think its an outrage that here we are in the 21st century and people are still forced to live without food, this isnt the 7th century, its 2007! and the singer bono of the band U2 has been stating this for a pretty long time now. So i posted a link up to one of my fav charities, because i have seen with my own eyes, massive poverty among Muslims living in India on a phenominal scale. according to India's own Government report issued just within this past year, half, yes half of all Muslims in India live in poverty. i have seen with my own eyes outside of delhi's famed jame masjid, a restuarant givng out bowls of food more like soup to the homless living in that area, which is heavily Muslim. General Musharrif himself was born there.

[sally]

thats nice. i wouldve had no idea that you're so into charitable causes..seeing as you're totally against 'immigrants' coming to the US to improve the quality of their lives

[GOTFIVEONIT]

Originally Posted by sally

thats nice. i wouldve had no idea that you're so into charitable causes..seeing as you're totally against 'immigrants' coming to the US to improve the quality of their lives

ha! you have a nice way of twisting things around to suit your own ends ms. 'im proud to be a gold digger and refuse to ever work a day in my life', and you probably never even held a job in your life to begin with anyways, but is it the rikshawala thats coming here to 'improve his quality of life'? is it your servants from your family home in karachi making thier way here to 'improve thier quality of life' as you put it? no its thier exploiters who are!

so let me state again what i really wrote in the past, India's economy is booming, even if Pakistan's is lagging, and there are plenty of job's sitting right there in bangalore and in hyderabad, peoples lives are already improving thanks to all the jobs they stole outta this country! this isnt the 1970's when our parents came over here ok, when there was sheer dire poverty, and India's economy had tanked in the late 70's thanks to indira Ghandi's emergency rule. the only people coming here today, are like my cousin, who simply want to show off and act and all arrogant. i dont know what dreamworld fantasy you live in, but face reality, most desis are nothing more money-obsessed show offs.

and do always remember sally, im not your freind, im not your pal, im not your buddy, im your enemy, since that's the way you want it, thats what you will get.

[sally]

Originally Posted by GOTFIVEONIT

ha! you have a nice way of twisting things around to suit your own ends ms. 'im proud to be a gold digger and refuse to ever work a day in my life',

if you had any brains you'd have figured out that that the premise of that entire thread is a joke which didn't end up turning out as funny as i thought it would've, but now that you're saying that you took it for real..i'm pretty amused. so thanks for making it worthwhile.

Originally Posted by GOTFIVEONIT

and you probably never even held a job in your life to begin with

thanks for passing such rash judgement, not knowing me and all. i'm 20 years old and on my third job, thanks. i got my first job at 18. i live with my family and dont ask my parents for a single penny when i'm employed and even pay for my own food often because my eating habits are so different than my familys. my parents dont like this at all but i still do it. oh, did i mention i'm a female desi? *shock, horror*

Originally Posted by GOTFIVEONIT

anyways, but is it the rikshawala thats coming here to 'improve his quality of life'? is it your servants from your family home in karachi making thier way here to 'improve thier quality of life' as you put it? no its thier exploiters who are!

the world isn't black and white. there aren't just poor innocent people who are being exploited and rich, stuck up, arrogant others who live & breathe money. there IS a middle ground, and there's plenty of it. there ARE people back home who aren't exactly living in huge houses but who have stable jobs, albeit low paying..nonetheless, they are content with their lives and probably would hate the idea of going to live in a foreign country. you may not hear of them as much, but they're there.

Originally Posted by GOTFIVEONIT

so let me state again what i really wrote in the past, India's economy is booming, even if Pakistan's is lagging,

so why dont you move to India already?

Originally Posted by GOTFIVEONIT

and there are plenty of job's sitting right there in bangalore and in hyderabad, peoples lives are already improving thanks to all the jobs they stole outta this country!

uh, are you seriously accusing people back home of stealing jobs out of north america? that is so incredibly ridiculous. see, what happened was that all the big companies figured out that there're smart people in 'third world' countries who would cost them less than a fraction of what an employee costs them here...financially and legally speaking. so that's why they moved all the jobs there. but obviously, you're going to continue thinking that a bunch of educated FOBs back in the motherland got together to plot and make things work out in their favor, being the incredibly paranoid human being that you are. i'm sure those FOBs got really far with there little schemes, lacking the resources to enter this country into the first place and all.

seriously, doesn't it sound like the western companies are the ones who are really doing the exploiting?

Originally Posted by GOTFIVEONIT

this isnt the 1970's when our parents came over here ok, when there was sheer dire poverty, and India's economy had tanked in the late 70's thanks to indira Ghandi's emergency rule.

again, you are incredibly naive. just because a few cities and provinces in the subcontinent have gained access to western technology and have 'advanced', doesn't mean the rest of the country has as well. india and pakistan both still have a long way to go. so poverty still exists. and there's plenty of it.

Originally Posted by GOTFIVEONIT

the only people coming here today, are like my cousin, who simply want to show off and act and all arrogant. i dont know what dreamworld fantasy you live in, but face reality, most desis are nothing more money-obsessed show offs.

again, in your frame of mind, there is only black and white. anything that you've experienced is supposed to apply to the rest of the world in the same dramatized and exagurated manner that you've made it out to be in your head. so really, you're the one living in a fantasy world. although i'll admit, that's one hell of a crappy fantasy world you've got in your head.

Originally Posted by GOTFIVEONIT

and do always remember sally, im not your freind, im not your pal, im not your buddy, im your enemy, since that's the way you want it, thats what you will get.

you sound like one of those aunties who gets offended at every little thing. like when someone she doesnt know doesnt wave back to her from a mile down in the Eid salaah hall.

i dont care about you enough to think of you as a friend or an enemy.

[Kona_Silat]

I perfer Islamic Relief USA Islamic Relief USA | .. they don't discriminate by country.

[GOTFIVEONIT]

im not going to sit here and disect every single comment and line you wrote here, so im just gonna get to the main idea. desi people are the most money-obssesed, most class-based people on this planet. it even mimicks the hindu caste system. in fact, there's a local newspaper here called the Indian Reporter, and on the front page ran a huge screaming headline made by an Indian govt. minister "MONEY IS NO LESS THAN GOD". and that's your typical desi mentality right there. and im not the only person who says this. im not the only person who complained about the greedyness of desi chics. you have been here on this website for a very very long time now, far longer than i have. and i was reading this site long before i ever started posting, and you know for a fact, that plenty of guy's have come on here before denouncing this class-based greedyness out of desi chics, and plenty of them have created topics about it too. in fact, none of the guy's on here, who at least are not your lil internet freinds sally, ever cry or hue or fuss over what i write about this greedyness, you know why sally? because they know its the daam truth! they have experienced it themselves. how do i know? i get plenty of emails on this website from guys saying 'hey man your right, i agree with you, im sick of it too, im fed up', or they leave me positive points and comments too. even anderson of all people, who is soo sensitive about being memon, and hates me with a deep passion, even wrote 'you know some of the things he says about desi chics are right'. and then you went and shamefully paraded yourself around as a gold digger on here, i mean after all are you not the same girl who refuses to work after marriage? your grand plan is to get a big rich wealthy husband, have your lil maid servants, and sit at home all day long watching fob crap on ptv all day long. these are your words, not mine.

you can claim your jokin around and all that, i mean come on who are we kidding here, this is how you really feel under the guise of comedic humor. and yes i use my personal experience out of my daily life, because you see its repititious. aqsa parvez being murdered by her own father up on toronto is not something common, because its something rare to occur. i have looked at countless number of rishta websites, poured through hundreds of profiles up on naseeb.com etc, and you have the same theme over and over by these desi chics 'must be professional', meaning must be mr. money bags. why dont they just write 'please submit your resume at hand'. i actually saw one where the parents of the girl placed the ad and wrote 'must be rich! must be doctor, businessman etc, we are wealthy people after all'. i have never heard of a desi girl marry an average joe and say 'you know what he may not be wealthy, but i find him attractive' or at least 'he makes me happy'. a white woman would! oooooh, im sure your grinding your teeth right there by that statement LOL.

and as for your take that not everyone in india and pak wants a green card. are you joking? hahaha thats the joke of the year. if america had open borders, 1 billion frickin desis would flood this country tommorow! would you like to see how many of them are trying to marry thier way to green cards? 1st Place Muslim Matrimonials - Muslim Personals / Introductions for Marriage use thier search engine on both male and female, and just type in USA, and you will count more than 100 profiles showing up all saying the same thing 'must be us citizen or green card holder as i wish to move to america'. anytime someone goes to visit india and pak, they get bombarded with q's 'how i can go amreeka'?? it got to a point where i just stopped telling them anything anymore, i started telling them 'i dont know i was born there i didnt immigrate there'.

as for me moving to India. why should I? India is not my country. i never lived there, i didnt grow up there, thier culture is totally and completely different than the way i lived. i refuse to work for $3 an hour. while your average outsourced call center employee in India maybe happy to work for that amount, i refuse to do so.

and since you wish to debate outsourcing with me, i have one q for you. if Indians are soo much smarter than those of us who are educated in the west, when our colleges are ranked the best in the world, then please do tell me ooh smart one, why is it that Indian outsourcing companies like wipro, and infosys prefer to hire american educated workers? why does thier ceo azim premji tries to come here to recruit american educated professionals but fails miserably when he cant get them to work for cheap? the fact is they are nothing more than cheap labor for a people too stupid to know what they are doing. ooh ya sally they are soo fricking smart, wanna know how smart they are? that when you call yahoo's dsl customer service you get a desi chic with a huge thick accent calling herself shelly, refusing to disclose her location when asked, who is reading off of a daam booK! you know i used to have aol years ago like everyone else did, when thier customer service center was in virginia they had fantastic employees who knew exactly what they were doing. these idiots in india dont know jack about computers and have to read out of a daam book! so dont gimme this crap about them being 'smarter' they are not, they are just better at cheating their way through school, as they do through life, since thats the corruption of thier native land, ok.

and apparantly im pretty daam important to you than you care to admit. organizing all your internet freinds to advertise themselves as gold diggers, all in a cheap attempt to tick me off, which failed miserably. organizing all your internet freinds, to report my posts on a daily basis, i mean exactly why are you website moderator anyways? isnt it a coincident after i started posting, all of a sudden you and foozball become moderators? i see your freindship with meraj sure paid off real well right there. you can call me paranoid all you want, but your actions speak for themselves. and your little gold digging parade along with the rest of your freinds, sure proved that alot. remember something here, maybe someone never told you this, but i will now.... actions, speak louder than words. and for all the actions that you have done, all the efforts you have done to me because of your radical feminist ideologies and your radical feminazi freinds here, you clearly wished to make me your enemy. so ya, im not your buddy, im not your pal, please do consider me your enemy, since you all wanted to make this personal, which i never did, hey let's all make it personal.

[Kona_Silat]

Got5,

While I agree with you that there are issues with Desi culture as you point out, speaking as an outsider (Indonesian American) and interacting with Muslims associated with them, I tend to believe you will find gold diggers in every culture. Iranians, Arabs, Indonesians, Africans and Whites have their share of gold diggers. Some are outwardly gold digging and others are good at hiding it. Its the case of consumerism or culture superseding the values of our faith.

An friend of mine have said, there is nothing wrong with a woman expecting financial security in her life from a prospective husband. But if you do look at our religion, financial responsibility of the family lays on the man's shoulder (like it or not). In the West, we like to believe that there is straight up equality but we can not fight what has been programmed in our DNA (Men want a woman with the hip waist ratio and women want security) [Darwin mode off].

My advice is not to get too caught up with the culture and just focus on improving your deen and surrounding yourself with good Muslim brothers and sisters who do not care about culture.

[foozball]

Originally Posted by GOTFIVEONIT

im not going to sit here and disect every single comment and line you wrote here, so im just gonna get to the main idea. desi people are the most money-obssesed, most class-based people on this planet. it even mimicks the hindu caste system. in fact, there's a local newspaper here called the Indian Reporter, and on the front page ran a huge screaming headline made by an Indian govt. minister "MONEY IS NO LESS THAN GOD". and that's your typical desi mentality right there. and im not the only person who says this. im not the only person who complained about the greedyness of desi chics. you have been here on this website for a very very long time now, far longer than i have. and i was reading this site long before i ever started posting, and you know for a fact, that plenty of guy's have come on here before denouncing this class-based greedyness out of desi chics, and plenty of them have created topics about it too. in fact, none of the guy's on here, who at least are not your lil internet freinds sally, ever cry or hue or fuss over what i write about this greedyness, you know why sally? because they know its the daam truth! they have experienced it themselves. how do i know? i get plenty of emails on this website from guys saying 'hey man your right, i agree with you, im sick of it too, im fed up', or they leave me positive points and comments too. even anderson of all people, who is soo sensitive about being memon, and hates me with a deep passion, even wrote 'you know some of the things he says about desi chics are right'. and then you went and shamefully paraded yourself around as a gold digger on here, i mean after all are you not the same girl who refuses to work after marriage? your grand plan is to get a big rich wealthy husband, have your lil maid servants, and sit at home all day long watching fob crap on ptv all day long. these are your words, not mine.

you can claim your jokin around and all that, i mean come on who are we kidding here, this is how you really feel under the guise of comedic humor. and yes i use my personal experience out of my daily life, because you see its repititious. aqsa parvez being murdered by her own father up on toronto is not something common, because its something rare to occur. i have looked at countless number of rishta websites, poured through hundreds of profiles up on naseeb.com etc, and you have the same theme over and over by these desi chics 'must be professional', meaning must be mr. money bags. why dont they just write 'please submit your resume at hand'. i actually saw one where the parents of the girl placed the ad and wrote 'must be rich! must be doctor, businessman etc, we are wealthy people after all'. i have never heard of a desi girl marry an average joe and say 'you know what he may not be wealthy, but i find him attractive' or at least 'he makes me happy'. a white woman would! oooooh, im sure your grinding your teeth right there by that statement LOL.

and as for your take that not everyone in india and pak wants a green card. are you joking? hahaha thats the joke of the year. if america had open borders, 1 billion frickin desis would flood this country tommorow! would you like to see how many of them are trying to marry thier way to green cards? 1st Place Muslim Matrimonials - Muslim Personals / Introductions for Marriage use thier search engine on both male and female, and just type in USA, and you will count more than 100 profiles showing up all saying the same thing 'must be us citizen or green card holder as i wish to move to america'. anytime someone goes to visit india and pak, they get bombarded with q's 'how i can go amreeka'?? it got to a point where i just stopped telling them anything anymore, i started telling them 'i dont know i was born there i didnt immigrate there'.

as for me moving to India. why should I? India is not my country. i never lived there, i didnt grow up there, thier culture is totally and completely different than the way i lived. i refuse to work for $3 an hour. while your average outsourced call center employee in India maybe happy to work for that amount, i refuse to do so.

and since you wish to debate outsourcing with me, i have one q for you. if Indians are soo much smarter than those of us who are educated in the west, when our colleges are ranked the best in the world, then please do tell me ooh smart one, why is it that Indian outsourcing companies like wipro, and infosys prefer to hire american educated workers? why does thier ceo azim premji tries to come here to recruit american educated professionals but fails miserably when he cant get them to work for cheap? the fact is they are nothing more than cheap labor for a people too stupid to know what they are doing. ooh ya sally they are soo fricking smart, wanna know how smart they are? that when you call yahoo's dsl customer service you get a desi chic with a huge thick accent calling herself shelly, refusing to disclose her location when asked, who is reading off of a daam booK! you know i used to have aol years ago like everyone else did, when thier customer service center was in virginia they had fantastic employees who knew exactly what they were doing. these idiots in india dont know jack about computers and have to read out of a daam book! so dont gimme this crap about them being 'smarter' they are not, they are just better at cheating their way through school, as they do through life, since thats the corruption of thier native land, ok.

and apparantly im pretty daam important to you than you care to admit. organizing all your internet freinds to advertise themselves as gold diggers, all in a cheap attempt to tick me off, which failed miserably. organizing all your internet freinds, to report my posts on a daily basis, i mean exactly why are you website moderator anyways? isnt it a coincident after i started posting, all of a sudden you and foozball become moderators? i see your freindship with meraj sure paid off real well right there. you can call me paranoid all you want, but your actions speak for themselves. and your little gold digging parade along with the rest of your freinds, sure proved that alot. remember something here, maybe someone never told you this, but i will now.... actions, speak louder than words. and for all the actions that you have done, all the efforts you have done to me because of your radical feminist ideologies and your radical feminazi freinds here, you clearly wished to make me your enemy. so ya, im not your buddy, im not your pal, please do consider me your enemy, since you all wanted to make this personal, which i never did, hey let's all make it personal.

....

[sally]

congratulations gotfiveiqpoints,

your essay officially has retarded my reading comprehension skills.

[zakk]

so wait, why are you giving money to desis again?

[Revert]

im a radical feminist

[GOTFIVEONIT]

Originally Posted by Kona_Silat

I perfer Islamic Relief USA Islamic Relief USA | .. they don't discriminate by country.

its not about discriminating, its the fact that no one cares about the plight of Indian Muslims, thats why i posted this link. India's own government report, released in oct. showed that half of all Muslim's in India live below INDIA"S poverty line.

[GOTFIVEONIT]

Originally Posted by Kona_Silat

Got5,

While I agree with you that there are issues with Desi culture as you point out, speaking as an outsider (Indonesian American) and interacting with Muslims associated with them, I tend to believe you will find gold diggers in every culture. Iranians, Arabs, Indonesians, Africans and Whites have their share of gold diggers. Some are outwardly gold digging and others are good at hiding it. Its the case of consumerism or culture superseding the values of our faith.

An friend of mine have said, there is nothing wrong with a woman expecting financial security in her life from a prospective husband. But if you do look at our religion, financial responsibility of the family lays on the man's shoulder (like it or not). In the West, we like to believe that there is straight up equality but we can not fight what has been programmed in our DNA (Men want a woman with the hip waist ratio and women want security) [Darwin mode off].

My advice is not to get too caught up with the culture and just focus on improving your deen and surrounding yourself with good Muslim brothers and sisters who do not care about culture.

that's true that every society has its share of gold diggers, or would kanye west wouldnt have made a hit single out of it, but nobody takes the cake more than the chics of my race.

and being a wealthy man, doesnt garuntee 'financial security'. thats such a vague term. if you dont live within your means, regardless of how much you earn, you will never be financially stable. the man who pays his bills on time, has good credit, but may not earn that 100k a year, is way more finanically stable than that rich wealthy doctor, who likes to gamble it all on the weekend in riverboat casinos.

[GOTFIVEONIT]

Originally Posted by sally

congratulations gotfiveiqpoints,

your essay officially has retarded my reading comprehension skills.

it still doesnt change the fact on how you shamelessly paraded yourself off as a greedy gold digger, but hey at least your being honest.

[Kona_Silat]

Originally Posted by GOTFIVEONIT

that's true that every society has its share of gold diggers, or would kanye west wouldnt have made a hit single out of it, but nobody takes the cake more than the chics of my race.

and being a wealthy man, doesnt garuntee 'financial security'. thats such a vague term. if you dont live within your means, regardless of how much you earn, you will never be financially stable. the man who pays his bills on time, has good credit, but may not earn that 100k a year, is way more finanically stable than that rich wealthy doctor, who likes to gamble it all on the weekend in riverboat casinos.

Actually from what I heard, and I do not endorse this comment, but Iranian ("Persian") women are the most materialistic. Owning a BMW is a requirement to have a relationship with them, but this is in the LA area, not sure of outside.