Muslim friends make Diwali bright for Hindu family

[Aryan_]

Hindus in Kashmir are among the most obnoxious, muslim hating bigots in the world. They consider Kashmir to be Hindu and their by divine providence and all Muslims to be unwelcome invaders. They're no different to the Jew Yorker hillybilly Israeli settlers who refused to leave the occupied territories. I assume everyone who is fine with this (and find it "cute") would also have no problem performing mezizah on a Kahanist settler's newborn.

Having said that, I don't believe the story. There's no way an entire muslim community would go out of their way to help a hindu family, especially in a border town. There's just too much mutual hatred and distrust.

[Revert]

Originally Posted by Aryan_

Hindus in Kashmir are among the most obnoxious, muslim hating bigots in the world. They consider Kashmir to be Hindu and their by divine providence and all Muslims to be unwelcome invaders. They're no different to the Jew Yorker hillybilly Israeli settlers who refused to leave the occupied territories. I assume everyone who is fine with this (and find it "cute") would also have no problem performing mezizah on a Kahanist settler's newborn.

Having said that, I don't believe the story. There's no way an entire muslim community would go out of their way to help a hindu family, especially in a border town. There's just too much mutual hatred and distrust.

How is giving money to Hindus and standing around with a candle the same as actually participating like doing mezizah would be?

[Aryan_]

Originally Posted by Revert

How is giving money to Hindus and standing around with a candle the same as actually participating like doing mezizah would be?

Being nice to bad people is a bad thing, not a good thing. We aren't Christians, we don't believe in turning the other cheek.

[Revert]

Originally Posted by Aryan_

Being nice to bad people is a bad thing, not a good thing. We aren't Christians, we don't believe in turning the other cheek.

WTH? You tar everyone with the same brush? How do you know these particular people are bad people? We also aren't heartless animals, we don't pass moral judgement on those less fortunate.

[Songbird]

Originally Posted by Revert

That shows your youthful impetulence there buddy. Touching dogs is not a Haraam action its will make you najas for Salat but its not Haraam. Becareful with the label of Haraam as naming something that clearly isn't can make yuou one of the people you despise the most, the kuffar. ALso the Hadith you quoted did not state any of the things you claimed, be careful with quoting things out of context.

I agree only with the naseehah given.

Bro SAOD, be very careful of labelling something Haraam. I have a friend who's living in Medina now as her husband is studying there, and the one thing her husband has noted, studying under the feet of all these esteemed A'alims is how carefully they answer questions to posed to them.

Even the simplest of questions posed to them, they ponder over, ask their own teachers, and only then, return to the questioner.

The point my friend was making [and her own father is a Sheikh btw] was that even THE MOST learned of men, are prudent when it comes to labelling things Haram. It's just not that black and white akhi. And this is what her husband has observed in his 2 years of study in Madina.

Oh and just curiously, *if* touching a dog was Haraam, why akhi, would our beautiful Nabi sAw then order someone [I'm assuming one of his companions RA?] to perform a forbidden act?

[GOTFIVEONIT]

Originally Posted by Aryan_

Hindus in Kashmir are among the most obnoxious, muslim hating bigots in the world. They consider Kashmir to be Hindu and their by divine providence and all Muslims to be unwelcome invaders. They're no different to the Jew Yorker hillybilly Israeli settlers who refused to leave the occupied territories. I assume everyone who is fine with this (and find it "cute") would also have no problem performing mezizah on a Kahanist settler's newborn.

Having said that, I don't believe the story. There's no way an entire muslim community would go out of their way to help a hindu family, especially in a border town. There's just too much mutual hatred and distrust.

well the story did say that there were ten kashmiri pandit families that lived in the village and that they fled, leaving these people left alone in the village. it also said it was the first time that they were celebrating it with thier neighbors in 40 years. and you can watch the video report yourself if you dont believe the story, after all the reporter is himself a muslim, mufti islah.

the people who believe that muslims are invaders, are made up of hindu fundamentalist bjp propoganda. given that the state of jammu and kashmir, india's only muslim-majority state, have had plenty of strife over the years, where many hindus in the southern end of the state of jammu were the targets, have left a huge bitter communal divide. i have seen it in plenty of places in the rest of india as well, in delhi, in agra, in bombay, gujrat, and yes in hyderabad. like i wrote before one of my younger cousins had a pet dog he named for the hindu idol ram haha.

and you do have some people who are tired of the fighting, who are tired of the riots, between hindus and muslims all over india.

believe me i have set foot in neighborhoods in the old city of hyd, that they call 'chota pakistan'. do you know why its called 'chota pakistan' (little pakistan)? because during hindu muslim riots, the muslims who formed a majority in the neighborhood, burned down the houses of all the hindus living there and chased them out tha today there are virtually no hindus left in the nieghborhood.

When i went to visit Akbar's grand mosque in his abandonded capital o fatehpur sikri, i met a boy who was the son of the tour guide. He was a Muslim. when he asked me if i was a Muslim, he started hurling insults left and right against Hindus haha.

[Aryan_]

Originally Posted by Revert

WTH? You tar everyone with the same brush? How do you know these particular people are bad people? We also aren't heartless animals, we don't pass moral judgement on those less fortunate.

You should take the time to see some of the displaced Kashmiris living in refugee camps in aJK before casting judgement on who is "less fortunate".

We aren't heartless animals, but we won't hesitate when it comes to calling a spade a spade either. We don't feel compassion towards our enemy, and we do not seek to win their appraisal.

The mentality of those Hindus who live in parts of Kashmir today is bigoted and arrogant, and they have acted as a fifth column for the Indian military in Kashmir today. Only those detached from the bloodshed of the military occupation can see no problem with supporting Hindu festivals.

[Revert]

Originally Posted by Aryan_

You should take the time to see some of the displaced Kashmiris living in refugee camps in aJK before casting judgement on who is "less fortunate".

We aren't heartless animals, but we won't hesitate when it comes to calling a spade a spade either. We don't feel compassion towards our enemy, and we do not seek to win their appraisal.

The mentality of those Hindus who live in parts of Kashmir today is bigoted and arrogant, and they have acted as a fifth column for the Indian military in Kashmir today. Only those detached from the bloodshed of the military occupation can see no problem with supporting Hindu festivals.

I refuse to judge a whole religion based on the happenings in Kashmir, if that were the case then we would all be evil, bomb-making, suicide Bombing animals.

[Aryan_]

Originally Posted by Revert

I refuse to judge a whole religion .

Who said anything about a whole religion? We're talking about Pandits and Hindu settlers in Kashmir.

[Revert]

Originally Posted by Aryan_

Who said anything about a whole religion? We're talking about Pandits and Hindu settlers in Kashmir.

Differentiate between Hindus in general and Kashmiri Hindus then. Either way i refuse to belive that each and every Hindu in Kashmir is evil.

[Skinwalker]

Originally Posted by SaidAbdullahofDarfur

EVERY THING WE DO AS MUSLIMS IS A FORM OF WORSHIP.

Doesn't loving others and doing good for them as you would for yourself consititute a form of worship?

[GOTFIVEONIT]

Originally Posted by Revert

Differentiate between Hindus in general and Kashmiri Hindus then. Either way i refuse to belive that each and every Hindu in Kashmir is evil.

i think what he means is that the kashmiri hindus, or pandits, are ethnically kashmiri, while hindus who setteled in kashmir, came from other parts of India.