Iran

[jinnzaman]

Originally Posted by shadha

You two are funny.

I have zero intention on doing anything but shopping. I'm bringing a big ass empty suitcase with me and when I get there I'll wear one of them black head-to-toe gear. Rinse and repeat that every day. So that I can pack my suitcase filled with clothing. Then I'll buy crazy amounts of jewelry and wear all that back [I'll look mad gaudy on the plane lol]. Then whatever I can't fit into my suitcase I'll be mailing it back. I was joking with my mom that weeks after I have already come home, I'll still be receiving boxes in the mail.

Hell, let me know if you guys want anything.


shadha-

Get me books from Iran.

[Timbit]

Originally Posted by photon

for shopping, go isfahan and tehran. i should warn you of the crazyass pollution and driving in tehran. things will be less expensive in shiraz i think.

i would also recommend you visit qum and mashhad because they are simply beautiful and the mosques are spiritually uplifting.

See?


You can get me some shoes though, babe; there's nothing in the malls over here.

[proudtobemuslim]

Word of advice.

Be careful which restaurants you eat at.

Have fun. It should be a great time.

[Walisidz]

I'd like to see Mashad, people say it reminds them of Lahore a lot.

[shadha]

photon: for shopping, go isfahan and tehran. i should warn you of the crazyass pollution and driving in tehran. things will be less expensive in shiraz i think.

Oki, thanks!

Timbit- WHY THE HELL WOULD I TRAVEL INTO IRAQ?!?!?! Anyway, I'm sure the family will drag me along to all the Masjids and stuff. I'm not really turned on by big Masjids, sure they are beautiful but to me, it's the people that make the Masjid not the marble. I also don't get why I would want to go to shrines and tombs for?

I really am just looking forward to meeting his relatives, mingling with the people of Iran and well shopping.

Hell, maybe I'll love Iran so much I'll relocate and live there..............HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Jinnz, if I go I'll get you books- but you'll have to give me a list otherwise I'll just end up sending you The Perfumed Garden in Farsi.


shadha-

[Timbit]

Originally Posted by shadha

Timbit- WHY THE HELL WOULD I TRAVEL INTO IRAQ?!?!?! Anyway, I'm sure the family will drag me along to all the Masjids and stuff. I'm not really turned on by big Masjids, sure they are beautiful but to me, it's the people that make the Masjid not the marble. I also don't get why I would want to go to shrines and tombs for?

I really am just looking forward to meeting his relatives, mingling with the people of Iran and well shopping.

Hell, maybe I'll love Iran so much I'll relocate and live there..............HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

'Cause it's been a bastion of Islamic scholarship!

Mosques are beautiful for their architecture and the spiritual element. Shrines and tombs... You might as well be Wahhabi, eh?
Well, never mind.You're interested in colonial Williamsburg but not Islamic history.


You can't be a hojabi in Iran. They have the real fashion police.

[shadha]

Timbit: 'Cause it's been a bastion of Islamic scholarship!

There is also a massive war going on...no thanks, I'll pass.

Timbit: Mosques are beautiful for their architecture and the spiritual element. Shrines and tombs... You might as well be Wahhabi, eh?

I never doubted that the Masjids are beautiful in their architecture but what I did say was that it didn't turn me on spiritually.

Again, shrines and tombs? No thanks.

Timbit: Well, never mind.You're interested in colonial Williamsburg but not Islamic history.

Whatever.

Timbit: You can't be a hojabi in Iran. They have the real fashion police.

I am NOT a hojabi! Anyway, I already said I'll wear one of them black joints so that it'll spare me room in my suitcase...but now since you said that, I may go over and rock it American style and when the fashion police come my way I'll be like, can't touch this! *hammer dance*.


shadha-

[Timbit]

Originally Posted by shadha

There is also a massive war going on...no thanks, I'll pass.

Which your country started. America, the Beautiful.

Originally Posted by shadha

I never doubted that the Masjids are beautiful in their architecture but what I did say was that it didn't turn me on spiritually.

Again, shrines and tombs? No thanks.

Wahhabi.

Originally Posted by shadha

Whatever.

Originally Posted by shadha

I am NOT a hojabi! Anyway, I already said I'll wear one of them black joints so that it'll spare me room in my suitcase...but now since you said that, I may go over and rock it American style and when the fashion police come my way I'll be like, can't touch this! *hammer dance*.

Omg. I never said you're a hojabi.
I meant nobody can be a hojabi in Iran. No fashion hijabs. Ever.

[shadha]

Timbit: Which your country started. America, the Beautiful.

...and...your...point...is.......what? Just because America started it doesn't mean I need to go vacation in the country where the war is. Why sense does that make?

Timbit: Wahhabi.

Why, because I don't want to see the Shrines and Tombs? What's the point in seeing them?

Timbit: Omg. I never said you're a hojabi.

It's so cute when your memory fails you. But have no fear, the quote is here: "You can't be a hojabi in Iran."

Timbit: I meant nobody can be a hojabi in Iran. No fashion hijabs. Ever.

Lol. Nobody? Ever?...Watch me.


shadha-

[Timbit]

Originally Posted by shadha

Timbit: Which your country started. America, the Beautiful.

...and...your...point...is.......what? Just because America started it doesn't mean I need to go vacation in the country where the war is. Why sense does that make?

Timbit: Wahhabi.

Why, because I don't want to see the Shrines and Tombs? What's the point in seeing them?

Timbit: Omg. I never said you're a hojabi.

It's so cute when your memory fails you. But have no fear, the quote is here: "You can't be a hojabi in Iran."

Timbit: I meant nobody can be a hojabi in Iran. No fashion hijabs. Ever.

Lol. Nobody? Ever?...Watch me.


shadha-

It doesn't mean you should go vacation there; I was just throwing that in there. Can't miss an opportunity to remind you about why your patriotism is misguided. But that's so typical American: start a mess and then ignore it. Wage war on Iraq and kill innocent people over there, but never visit it yourself for fear of dying.

And I was using the generic you. It applies to anybody who goes there. Or lives there.
See the hojabi Facebook group and the pics of the busts.

EDIT: Wait, why would you think I called a hojabi? And even if I did mean that (which I didn't), you know it can also mean hot hijabi, right?

[shadha]

Timbit: It doesn't mean you should go vacation there; I was just throwing that in there. Can't miss an opportunity to remind you about why your patriotism is misguided. But that's so typical American: start a mess and then ignore it. Wage war on Iraq and kill innocent people over there, but never visit it yourself for fear of dying.

You're making absolutely no sense. Maybe if I supported the war, then sure, but seeing as I never supported the war, why then should I feel obligated to enter the war-torn country just because my country started it? And WHO enters a war-torn country to go parading their ass around the hot spots? It's not even like you're saying I should go volunteer my time, no you are telling me I should go see the areas out of enjoyment. Eh? I don't get why or how you're twisting this around to be, oh you're an American and won't go to what you started...it's like you're just itching to throw something in my face. But what? That I don't want to go to a war-torn country, despite if mine started it? And? The problem is what? That's not called ignoring the situation, it's called being realistic.

And lol I was just kidding about the hojabi thing, I couldn't really care if you called me one or not.


shadha-

[Timbit]

Originally Posted by shadha

oh you're an American and won't go to what you started...

Yeah, exactly. That was the whole point right there.

Like I said, I was just hinting at why your patriotism is misguided, more in a teasing manner. I wasn't seriously suggesting that you go to Iraq, especially since you said you had no interest in doing so. But lots of people go to war-torn countries for different reasons. Life in the country doesn't stop, you know. People are still living and working and yes, visiting, there (though I'm sure less people are visiting now). I would go if I got the chance.

I didn't know that you didn't support the war. I was under the impression that you did actually. You support the troops, which really doesn't seem that different to me. Also, you can argue that citizens, unless actively denouncing the actions of their government are complacent in them.

[shadha]

Timbit: Yeah, exactly. That was the whole point right there.

And I reiterate that your point makes no sense.

Timbit: Like I said, I was just hinting at why your patriotism is misguided, more in a teasing manner. I wasn't seriously suggesting that you go to Iraq, especially since you said you had no interest in doing so. But lots of people go to war-torn countries for different reasons. Life in the country doesn't stop, you know. People are still living and working and yes, visiting, there (though I'm sure less people are visiting now). I would go if I got the chance.

I never suggested that life in the country is at a standstill but do I need to remind you of how much violence goes down each day? Why would I willingly put myself into that situation to go view architecture that I can see and read about online? With your logic, I should also visit Afghanistan, since we declared war there too.

Timbit: I didn't know that you didn't support the war. I was under the impression that you did actually. You support the troops, which really doesn't seem that different to me.

At no time have I ever supported the war. I do unquestionably support the troops coming home, which is entirely different then supporting the war. Supporting the war would entail me wanting to keep the troops in the occupied lands, which I have never wanted. Enormous distinction between the two.

Timbit: Also, you can argue that citizens, unless actively denouncing the actions of their government are complacent in them.

Now, don't you follow Hadith? Wouldn't that then make your argument flawed, since one can hate injustice in their hearts? Aside from Hadith, I do think it's flawed. One doesn't need to spend their every waking moment protesting on the grass of the White House. There are many ways to protest the government and seeing as you don't know what steps I have personally taken, that argument is even further flawed. Also the fact that you're willing to hold an entire nation of people accountable for the actions of their government, despite what they have said against such actions, is quite the ridiculousness.

Anyway, stop trolling my thread.


shadha-

[Timbit]

Shadha, I didn't say I was arguing that. I said it can be argued. And it has been, by some political scientists. And of course, there are others who argue the opposing point-of-view. I think I'm more inclined towards the former though.

I'd visit Afghanistan too. But that's moreso for development. InshaAllah, one day.
Btw, I never suggested you go to Iraq because your country is waging a war there. I said it's funny that you don't want to, considering that your country is waging a war there (and I thought you supported that war).

As for supporting the troops.. okay, we'll take it to MSN.

Sorry, I'm gonna stop derailing your thread now.
For the record, I was going to stop a few posts down. That's why I started talking about dress codes in Iran (hojabis and the fashion police). So yeah... pretty, colourful hijabs...

[ChotooMotoo]

What the heck are you guys talking about? Plenty of hojabi's in Iran, it's in the news all the time.