Roma are not Palestinian or Dalit

[Rehmat]

Rabbi Jonathan B. Freirich, a prominent Jewish leader in Navada and California along with Rajan Zed, president of Universal Society of Hinduism - has demanded that the newly elected European Parliament (EU) must work for “urgently ending the apartheid conditions of European Roma”, terming it a moral and a dark stain on the face of Europe. Roma the second largest minority (approx. 10 million) after Muslim communities in Europe (more than 15 million excluding Russia).

“Roma live in deep poverty even in most prosperous parts of the world. Many of their children reportedly study in segregated schools offering inferior quality education and many do not attend school at all.

Their alarming condition is a social blight for Europe and the rest of the world as they reportedly regularly face social exclusion, racism, substandard education, hostility, joblessness, rampant illness, inadequate housing, lower life expectancy, unrest, living on desperate margins, language barriers, stereotypes, mistrust, rights violations, discrimination, marginalization, appalling living conditions, prejudice, human rights abuse, racist slogans on Internet, unusually high unemployment rates, etc.,” – says Zed and Freirich.

Both Zed and Freirich, should be complimented for raising their voices for the most victimized western community which lost more members to the Nazi era than the Jews – but have never been included in as ‘the Holocaust’ – which is reserved the ‘chosen people’ alone. However, they should also be excused for NOT raising their voices for Palestinian and Dalit – being born and brought-up in the world’s most racist societies. Like the illegal Jewish-only settlements in the occupied Palestine – there are thousands of Hindu high-caste housing projects all over India. India’s one of greatest Hindu philosopher, Dr. Bhim Rao Ambedkar (d. 1956), in his book ‘Pakistan or Partition of India’ (p 358), wrote: “If Hindu Raj became a reality then it would be greatest menace to this country. Whatever Hindus may say, actually it doesn’t make a difference that Hinduism is a danger to Independence, Equality and Brotherhood. Thus it is an enemy of democracy. We should make all out effort to stop Hindu Rajfrom becoming a reality.”

Jewish racism aka “chosenness” could not have been explained better than Israeli-born British musician and writer Gilad Atzmon. In his essay The Jewish Experience, he wrote: “In order to understand the Jewish concept of self-loving, we may have to reflect first on the issue that makes this particular form of personal emotional consciousness take place: the issue of chosenness.

While the religious Judiac understanding of Jewish chosenness is realized as a moral burden in which Jews are ordered by G-d to stand as a model of ethical behaviour, the secular Jewish interpretation is reduced into a banal chauvinist form of racially oriented supremacy. It clearly encourages those who are lucky to have a Jewish mother to love themselves blindly. It is crucial to mention at this stage that in most cases Jewish supremacy would lead to a certain level of dismissal of the elementary rights of the others. In many cases it leads toward animosity and even hatred whether latent or manifest……”

It’s interesting to note that while close to 150,000 German Jews served in the Nazi Army – Gypsies were forbidden to serve in the Nazi Army in 1941.(Hancock, 1991).

Roma are an ethnic minority group originally from the Indian subcontinent. The Roma entered Europe and dispersed through the continent around 1300 CE. Roma speak an Indo-Aryan language with many dialects but the roots are from ancient Punjabi or Urdu (Hindi). No universal Romani culture exist, but there are some common traits. These traits are loyaty to family, a belief in their God, Del, and beng their devil. they believe in predestiny, and practice Romaniya, their standard of living. (’A Brief History of the Roma’, 1999).

Turkey is home to the oldest Roma community within Muslim world. Istanbul city authorities are planning to demolish 600-year-old ‘Sulukule Gypsy quarters including belly-dancer night-clubs, to make way for townhouses for the 2010 European Capital of Culture Festival.

More Palestinians (5 million) live outside their native land as refugees than who live (4 million) as the “fourth-class citizens” after European, Arab and Asian/African Jews – in the occupied Palestine. Dalits (members of Hindu lowest caste community) is estimated at 220 million – out of which 20 million live outside India.

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[Anderson]

You're pretty messed up.

[Rehmat]

Anderson said

You're pretty messed up.

I swear on Talmud - I have never been to any of 276 brothels in Tel Aviv.

[Tanasi]

Remember that Holocaust during 1939-1945 that some people say never happened? Well more than 1 million Roma were murdered by the Nazis in the concentration camps some people say never existed. Ask any Roma about it, they'll tell you.

I am a descendent of the some of the Maru clan of Roma who lived in Spain and fled during the Inquisition. They settled in a small town in the Pyranese Mountains on the French side but fled France in the late 1600's due to religious persecution. They ended up in America. During the years in France their name was spelled Moreau but pronounced "Mah-roo". Unlike many Roma, my ancestors largely assimilated into the backwoods metis' culture. There are few Moreaus left these days.

Why is it you turn everything into a rant against Jews? Do you even know any Jews? I do and most Jews are really regular, decent people. They love their families, worry about what's going on in the world, work and pay their bills, and many of them do not particularly support the ongoing Israeli expansion of settlements in the West Bank nor do they support the heavy-handed tactics Israel has employed against Palestinians. But neither do they agree with the suicide attacks, bombings, and other attacks by Palestinians. They want peace with both sides getting something they can live with.

And just so you know I have both Jewish and Muslim blood through the Melungeons.

[Anderson]

The nazis definitely had no spirit of the buffalo.

[Rehmat]

Anderson said

The nazis definitely had no spirit of the buffalo.

What are you - another 'anti-Semite' nut?

Don't you know there were close to 150,000 erman Jews who served in Nazi Army

[Anderson]

Rehmat said

Don't you know there were close to 150,000 erman Jews who served in Nazi Army

Yes but in their defence they were mostly slave labourers building concentration camps in which they'd later be killed..

[SheikYerbouti]

Rehmat said

I swear on Talmud - I have never been to any of 276 brothels in Tel Aviv.

u know how many brothels there are in Tel Aviv? that's gross. Why do u want what everyone else already had 1000 times? u r not a very good jew

[Rehmat]

SheikYerbouti said

u know how many brothels there are in Tel Aviv? that's gross. Why do u want what everyone else already had 1000 times? u r not a very good jew

A good Jew is who don't have sex with a married Jewish - because that's the only case which is considered as adultery. Keep that in mind when you like to have fun

[SheikYerbouti]

Rehmat said

A good Jew is who don't have sex with a married Jewish - because that's the only case which is considered as adultery. Keep that in mind when you like to have fun

sounds like u keep score

[Rehmat]

Anderson said

Yes but in their defence they were mostly slave labourers building concentration camps in which they'd later be killed..

Jew and slaves?

Since when that happened to the very people who are known for slave trade for centuries - and even now sell 3000-5000 European Christian women for sex slavery per year right in Israel.

Anderson said

Yes but in their defence they were mostly slave labourers building concentration camps in which they'd later be killed..

SheikYerbouti said

sounds like u keep score

YEP - at least I am not a coward to hide behind a Muslim name

[SheikYerbouti]

Rehmat said

Since when that happened to the very people who are known for slave trade for centuries - and even now sell 3000-5000 European Christian women for sex slavery per year right in Israel.

How many do u see?

YEP - at least I am not a coward to hide behind a Muslim name

u r sick to keep score. women r not trophies and sex is not a game

[Rehmat]

Tanasi said

Remember that Holocaust during 1939-1945 that some people say never happened? Well more than 1 million Roma were murdered by the Nazis in the concentration camps some people say never existed. Ask any Roma about it, they'll tell you.

The problem people have is not that genocide of Gypsies, Christians and Jews happened during Nazi-regime - but that there is no scientific proof that "Six Million" Jews were killed by Nazis - when the fact is there were close to 150 German Jews who served in Nazi Army.

Furthermore, the Communist Jew leaders carried out ten times greater genocide of Christians in Russia (60-100 million) and Ukrain (7 million).

[Jamroll]

Rehmat said

The problem people have is not that genocide of Gypsies, Christians and Jews happened during Nazi-regime - but that there is no scientific proof that "Six Million" Jews were killed by Nazis - when the fact is there were close to 150 German Jews who served in Nazi Army.

Rehmat, that means nothing. There are always traitors in any group. Look at the Muslim world today. How many Muslims are lining up with the oppressors? Does this mean the Muslim world is not being attacked because there are hundreds of turncoats?

[Tanasi]

Rehmat said

The problem people have is not that genocide of Gypsies, Christians and Jews happened during Nazi-regime - but that there is no scientific proof that "Six Million" Jews were killed by Nazis - when the fact is there were close to 150 German Jews who served in Nazi Army.

Furthermore, the Communist Jew leaders carried out ten times greater genocide of Christians in Russia (60-100 million) and Ukrain (7 million).

The Jews have suffered under the Communists as much as under the Tsars. As far as "scientific proof" there's plenty of documentation- the Nazis were fanatical record keepers and recorded every single person executed or imprisoned under their regime. When Eisenhower's troops liberated death camps they were required to recover all records and to document everything, and took plenty of photographs to provide visual documentation. One of my grandmother's brothers was a soldier in WWI and happened to be one of those guys documenting things. He told us about the records they recovered, about the death camps and the stories of the survivors, and about the mass graves as well as the piles of ashes with fragments of human bone in them. The man was no liar and was not making all of that up.