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Old 08-02-2007, 01:25 PM
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Don't forget that this is Pakistan, an undemocratic and corrupt nation.
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Oh that makes perfect sense. The man won't submit to Islam so they zina him into it. Well done smart asks. Seriously, what is up with the world? I suggest everyone stops procreating.
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i know. there are too many priests like that in the states. it sickens me
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That article is complete BS.
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just because the source of the article seems to be untrustworthy doesnt mean this stuff does NOT happen. this sort of behavior happens all over the world (by muslims and nonmuslims alike and onto muslims and nonmuslims alike) for countless number of reasons to both men and women.
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Man Sexually Assaulted in Pakistan After Refusing to Convert to Islam

Lawyers in Pakistan are investigating a report that up to 30 men tortured and gang-raped a young Christian man for refusing to convert to Islam.

The victim is seriously injured and unable to move, Release International’s partner in Pakistan has reported. However, according to the Centre for Legal Aid Assistance and Settlement (CLAAS) the police are keeping him locked up and have denied him medical treatment.

The police are also refusing to register the rape following a counter-claim made by his principal attacker – “a man of influence”, Release International has told Christian Today.

According to CLAAS, the Christian was invited to a game of cricket. A quarrel broke out and he was beaten up. Later that evening, the father of one of the Muslims asked the Christian over to his house.

Joseph Francis, the National Director of CLAAS, explained: “When he entered the drawing room, he found it filled with unknown people. They began to beat him severely. They threatened him with dire consequences if he did not accept Islam. After his refusal, they committed sodomy with him one by one for the whole night.”

Francis said that they later threw their victim out on the street unconscious.

CLAAS has visited the victim and his family. They believe the counter accusation that he stole money and a mobile phone is false. They say the charges were drawn up by the attacker, who has used his influence to put pressure on the authorities.

“We’re deeply concerned about the growing number of attacks against Christians in Pakistan,” says Release International’s CEO Andy Dipper. “We are receiving reports of rape, abductions and forced conversion. Pakistan is becoming an increasingly difficult place for Christians to live.

“To make matters worse, the government is pushing through a law which could impose the death penalty for any Muslim man who converts to Christianity – and life imprisonment for any woman."

http://www.christiantoday.com/articl...slam/11332.htm

I would like to ask whether there is any proof that it happened. If it is a fact then it should have been published in many newspapers.

Anyhow, it is nothing to do with Islam. Islam ask for conversion with free will. Even someone converting to Islam for the sake of a marriage is also not considered muslim unless he/she do it with free will and understanding (as marriage is a earthly thing so conversion for the sake of marriage is no conversion at all the person remains a non-muslim).
So all the above quoted matter is rubbish.
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I don't need help, and the point still stands, that this article isn't any more substantial than what I've linked to in the past.
It doesn't matter whether the article is substantial, or not; the difference is that nothing beyond "it's BS" was provided, but I guess you are aware of that and are just fulfilling your MHLW
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It doesn't matter whether the article is substantial, or not; the difference is that nothing beyond "it's BS" was provided, but I guess you are aware of that and are just fulfilling your MHLW
Of course I am aware of that, and that's why I made the comparison, as I consider your comments against the articles I link to as having no more value than that.
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Of course I am aware of that, and that's why I made the comparison, as I consider your comments against the articles I link to as having no more value than that.
Yeah sure --
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If a man was actually assaulted in this manner, then I doubt the reason is to forcefully convert him to Islam. People who commit a crime that is punished severely in Islam cannot be the same ones to go about wanting to preach and convert people. If the story is true, then there's a totally different motive to the assault. Maybe the guy slandered Islam or something? That's more likely to be the reason.

Of course I'm not justifying the crime. It's still a crime. But the real story must be a different one. "Wanting to convert him to Islam" sounds like a lame one only paranoid missionaries would use.
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No, that's not really true, as I don't always have the last word.
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Soldier guilty of rape, murder of Iraqi girl - Conflict in Iraq - MSNBC.com

Was this man's faith brought into question?
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how can these animals not use logic? doesn't it exist there? you're trying to force someone to convert to your faith, and then rape them for not doing so. what does that say about your faith? i know it's wrong to generalize...but i can totally understand why people are afraid of islam when they see or hear about filth like this what a real pity!
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