[roberto]

[quote=iliketofish;1737][quote=roberto;1604]

If you're getting at critcizing Islam's stance on apostasy, then you should check out what the Old Testament has to say about the issue.

No I'm just making the request

"May we please have some examples of rape by Christians on Christain who have converted (reverted if you wish) to Islam please"

[roberto]

[quote=Kaminyu;1756]

Because you missed my reply to Kona, when he asked the same thing:

Kona said:

I have not heard of Christians raping Muslims for converting.

To which I replied:

No, not for converting (though I certainly wouldn't put it beyond them to do so), just in general. However, persecution by Christians for conversion does happen.

Okay , thanks

The inconvenient truth, that the MI-5 and/or MI-6 carry out false-flag operations to be blamed on the phantom "al-Qaida" network, which you are in denial about... or have you since changed your mind?

Yes I remember our discussion re your claim. I also remember asking you to substantiate your claim to which you responded with I think it was 5 website of a rather dubious nature , however the main point was that having read 3 of them word for word there was not a single scrap of concrete evidence to support your claim.

I don't think there's a lot of point having a re-run, however I must point out that your comparison with a unsupported bare statement by ABCDGIRL, that the pertinent article was "BS", with a lengthy discussion that we had is utterly ridiculous.

[kenneth]

[quote=roberto;1760][quote=iliketofish;1737]

Originally Posted by roberto

No I'm just making the request

"May we please have some examples of rape by Christians on Christain who have converted (reverted if you wish) to Islam please"

Why?

[roberto]

[quote=kenneth;1765][quote=roberto;1760]

Originally Posted by iliketofish

Why?

Ask the question without and I'll reply

[Kaminyu]

Originally Posted by roberto

Yes I remember our discussion re your claim. I also remember asking you to substantiate your claim to which you responded with I think it was 5 website of a rather dubious nature , however the main point was that having read 3 of them word for word there was not a single scrap of concrete evidence to support your claim.

I don't think there's a lot of point having a re-run, however I must point out that your comparison with a unsupported bare statement by ABCDGIRL, that the pertinent article was "BS", with a lengthy discussion that we had is utterly ridiculous.

There is no re-run, and the comparison stands, as your claims against the articles I posted/linked to in that "lengthy discussion", were also unsupported. This is also not to mention the fact that in both of these cases, the article(s) in question, were from non-MSM sources.

In terms of "credibility", when you compare christiantoday to uruknet, anti-war, or prison-planet, christiantoday really doesn't have anything over them. The MSM hardly has anything over them, besides money and influence.

[roberto]

[quote=Kaminyu;1784]

There is no re-run, and the comparison stands, as your claims against the articles I posted/linked to in that "lengthy discussion", were also unsupported. This is also not to mention the fact that in both of these cases, the article(s) in question, were from non-MSM sources.

Kaminyu your confused, the whole point was that there was a discussion and that as a rssult I found your claims unfounded, ASDEgirl did not enter into discussion prior to her crude comment of "BS"

In terms of "credibility", when you compare christiantoday to uruknet, anti-war, or prison-planet, christiantoday really doesn't have anything over them. The MSM hardly has anything over them, besides money and influence

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[Kaminyu]

Originally Posted by roberto

Kaminyu your confused, the whole point was that there was a discussion and that as a rssult I found your claims unfounded, ASDEgirl did not enter into discussion prior to her crude comment of "BS"

Yes, and you found the claims "unfounded" on the same sort've grounds that this article is said to be "BS".

[Kona_Silat]

[quote=iliketofish;1737]

Originally Posted by roberto

Is this something to boost Christianity's statistics? How does a Muslim's crime speak at all about Islam's teachings? If you're getting at critcizing Islam's stance on apostasy, then you should check out what the Old Testament has to say about the issue.



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The new testament trumps the old testament. It is the "final convenant".

Originally Posted by sheik_speare

assalamu alaikum


how can the US liberate an ally in the war on terror. i think you need to liberate your mind by opening up a 3rd grade history and/or government book.

and Allah Almighty knows best.

Hardly an ally since Pakistan is harboring terrorists.

[Jamroll]

Originally Posted by Kona_Silat

Hardly an ally since Pakistan is harboring terrorists.

You're pretty dumb. Pakistan's ruler is hated because he bent over backwards so much helping the US government in their "war on terror".

Anyway, if you've got a problem with it, what do you propose to do about it?

[Kaminyu]

Originally Posted by Kona_Silat

The new testament trumps the old testament. It is the "final convenant".

Except not everyone who believes in the OT, believes in the NT, and not everyone who believes in the NT, rejects the Shariah of the OT.

Hardly an ally since Pakistan is harboring terrorists.

Which is funny, considering the fact that the Neo-cons themselves are terrorists. Their "war on terrorism" is as phony as their "war on drugs", and is as vague a slogan as "war on crime".

[Kona_Silat]

Originally Posted by Jamroll

You're pretty dumb. Pakistan's ruler is hated because he bent over backwards so much helping the US government in their "war on terror".

Anyway, if you've got a problem with it, what do you propose to do about it?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070801/pl_nm/usa_politics_obama_dc;_ylt=AiNL0xjfcsElqYSpry55SAq s0NUE

[Kaminyu]

Originally Posted by Kona_Silat

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070801/pl_nm/usa_politics_obama_dc;_ylt=AiNL0xjfcsElqYSpry55SAq s0NUE

That's no solution. That's part of the problem. Barack Obama has no good solutions. He's just a sell-out to AIPAC and other war-mongers, like most of the presidential candidates are (Ron Paul is an exception).

[roberto]

Originally Posted by Kaminyu

Yes, and you found the claims "unfounded" on the same sort've grounds that this article is said to be "BS".

Maybe , but ABCDGIRL didn't say why she considered the artilce to be "BS".

Kaminyu please try to understand, this is becoming tedious, my point is obvious , I've explained the obvious, there's really not much more I can do to help you

[Kaminyu]

Originally Posted by roberto

Maybe , but ABCDGIRL didn't say why she considered the artilce to be "BS".

Kaminyu please try to understand, this is becoming tedious, my point is obvious , I've explained the obvious, there's really not much more I can do to help you

I don't need help, and the point still stands, that this article isn't any more substantial than what I've linked to in the past.

[Jamroll]

Originally Posted by Kona_Silat

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070801/pl_nm/usa_politics_obama_dc;_ylt=AiNL0xjfcsElqYSpry55SAq s0NUE

So, you advocate going into other people's countries without their permission and attacking people in there?

Well, I can't say I'm suprised at your attitude. It's consistent with the rest of your silly ideas. However, I do think the US government would be making a big mistake invading Pakistan. Pakistan might be poor, but it is no Iraq (and the US government can't even deal with Iraq) - unless they nuked the whole country, they'd get their asses handed back to