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see Aryans post, plus Christians prosecute Christians in Ireland for being a different sect.
We're not persecuting on the basis of sect, we're talking about persecuting on the basis for converting to another religion.
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see Aryans post, plus Christians prosecute Christians in Ireland for being a different sect.
The killing's in Ireland related to independence fromBritish rule, it was not motivated by religious intolerance as such
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That article is complete BS.
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lol. yes, because all democratic nations are beacons of righteousness. im not a fan of the pakit government, but i think 100% of your posts on this forum are asinine and dont even intelligently address the matter at hand.

western democracies have among the highest rates of violent sex crimes. read a book.

and if youve really become a christian (cant tell if youre joking or not), the bible says "seek the truth and the truth shall set you free."

and Allah Almighty knows best.

Well by all means have your opinion of the West, but is Pakistan, an undemocratic and corrupt nation.?
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Then you obviously do not know many Christians, as a lot of Muslims who converted from Christianity experience a lot of "aggressive acts" against them for doing so.
May we please have some examples of rape by Christians on Christain who have converted (reverted if you wish) to Islam please
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See my last post.
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Yep, if you don't like it, then disbelieve it and who knows, it might disappear
You mean like how you don't like the fact that British intel is involved in false flag operations, so you choose to disbelieve that in it?
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See my last post.
This is what I requested:

May we please have some examples of rape by Christians on Christian who have converted (reverted if you wish) to Islam please.

This is what you posted,

Here's another rape case from Florida. It's not religious persecution, just general ignorance.
or have I somehow missed a post?
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You mean like how you don't like the fact that British intel is involved in false flag operations, so you choose to disbelieve that in it?
Waht are you on about?
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lol. yes, because all democratic nations are beacons of righteousness. im not a fan of the pakit government, but i think 100% of your posts on this forum are asinine and dont even intelligently address the matter at hand.

western democracies have among the highest rates of violent sex crimes. read a book.

and if youve really become a christian (cant tell if youre joking or not), the bible says "seek the truth and the truth shall set you free."

and Allah Almighty knows best.
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Well by all means have your opinion of the West, but is Pakistan, an undemocratic and corrupt nation.?
what are you getting at? what i posted werent "opinions" rather they were documented facts. thats what happens when you approach a post with a closed mind. you misread crucial parts of the statement.

i didnt dispute whether or not it was undemocratic. i was pointing out to kona that regardless of government type, violent sex crimes occur.

but yeah, to address your post. pakistan is somewhat democratic because its parlimentary elections are direct. musharraf just came to power by coup, so thats not really democratic. is it corrupt? all nations are. see senator stevens from alaska.

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I think Pakistan needs to be liberated by the USA.

But no one has cited any cases of Chrisitans raping ex-Christians for converting.
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I think Pakistan needs to be liberated by the USA.

But no one has cited any cases of Chrisitans raping ex-Christians for converting.
how can the US liberate an ally in the war on terror. i think you need to liberate your mind by opening up a 3rd grade history and/or government book.

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May we please have some examples of rape by Christians on Christain who have converted (reverted if you wish) to Islam please
Is this something to boost Christianity's statistics? How does a Muslim's crime speak at all about Islam's teachings? If you're getting at critcizing Islam's stance on apostasy, then you should check out what the Old Testament has to say about the issue.

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I think Pakistan needs to be liberated by the USA.

But no one has cited any cases of Chrisitans raping ex-Christians for converting.
How about cases of homosexuals being tortured and killed, 'heretics' being burned alive and their cultures destroyed, and countless cold-blooded massacres... would those soothe your inferiority complex?
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This is what I requested:

May we please have some examples of rape by Christians on Christian who have converted (reverted if you wish) to Islam please.

This is what you posted,

Here's another rape case from Florida. It's not religious persecution, just general ignorance.
or have I somehow missed a post?
Because you missed my reply to Kona, when he asked the same thing:

Kona said:

I have not heard of Christians raping Muslims for converting.

To which I replied:

No, not for converting (though I certainly wouldn't put it beyond them to do so), just in general. However, persecution by Christians for conversion does happen.

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Waht are you on about?
The inconvenient truth, that the MI-5 and/or MI-6 carry out false-flag operations to be blamed on the phantom "al-Qaida" network, which you are in denial about... or have you since changed your mind?

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I think Pakistan needs to be liberated by the USA.
I think the USA itself needs to be liberated. The world has seen quite enough of the neo-con's idea of "liberation" in Iraq.
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but yeah, to address your post. pakistan is somewhat democratic because its parlimentary elections are direct. musharraf just came to power by coup, so thats not really democratic. is it corrupt? all nations are. see senator stevens from alaska.
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Well thanks, you got there eventually, although in a somewhat muddled way, I'm afraid
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