Reviving the Islamic Spirit 6th Convention

[hijabihoodlum]

anybody go to the entertainment session who wants to report on how native deen did?

[IbnMardhiyah]

Originally Posted by the_only_one

Yes, I did so, fearing that the vendor might run out of stock. But I went back for the clothes-wear and I had no luck, but again, I have a unique taste when it comes to style and fashion.

If the product was $50, lets say, pay the guy $25 on the first day and ask him to hold it for you, that you'll come back and pick it up later. Come back on the third day and if the price has dropped to like, $35, then just pay the extra $10 instead of $25.

[wait ... why am I telling women how to shop? ]

Originally Posted by hijabihoodlum

anybody go to the entertainment session who wants to report on how native deen did?

From Islamicans, I'm sure Shah went - he had bought a ticket

[the_only_one]

Originally Posted by IbnMardhiyah

If the product was $50, lets say, pay the guy $25 on the first day and ask him to hold it for you, that you'll come back and pick it up later. Come back on the third day and if the price has dropped to like, $35, then just pay the extra $10 instead of $25.

[wait ... why am I telling women how to shop? ]

and really, what would indicate the price drop? unless of course, im slick and pretend to be a new buyer? but again, not everyone has a short term memory as myself?

[Timbit]

Originally Posted by the_only_one

Also, how is RIS bazaar awesome? I could not find any hijabs (the style, and more often the fabric sucked) that i liked nor I could find any good deals on the best books. everything was over-priced. Things might have changed this year, but last time when I checked, thats how I found them. over-crowded. overpriced. over-rated.

I didn't find much there last year, but this year, it was definitely better in terms of the hijab shopping. Same with books, I found. More choice.

Not overpriced though, especially not on the last day. Only people who I heard that from were this aunty and uncle who just came from Hajj and were comparing all the prices to the prices in Saudi Arabia (dollars to riyals, heh).

Maniac said business was doing well too though everytime I went by and asked him.

Originally Posted by IbnMardhiyah

Like I said, its one of those more refined, background details that some people notice. Or maybe its just guys who noticed, or only the people who were sitting at a booth.

Yeah, probably. I know you're talking about the four Turkish girls who walk together because you mentioned it once before on here. My observation skills really aren't the best though... plus, this was only my second time at RIS and I don't go to many of the other conferences.

Originally Posted by IbnMardhiyah

I was walking with some buddies along the side of the bazaar and some big african brother was handing out flyers, we don't know about what ... but basically one of my buddies was wearing a baseball cap and he gets pulled to the side and the big guy is like, "yo that hat is haraam, its part of a jewish conspiracy"

...........

apparently because on the top of the hat, there's a total of six holes [for ventilation?] and the bro was telling us that those six holes in fact represented the six-sided jewish Star of David and that it was all part of a global mind-control conspiracy.

Everything's a global Jewish conspiracy to some Muslims.

[MuslimZ]

Originally Posted by the_only_one

i couldnt find any hijabs/abayas that spoke to me..

I'm pretty sure talking hijabs are biddah.

[Haramoobobi]

Originally Posted by Timbit

Whaaaat? How can Shaykh Hamza and Dr. Badawi bore you? They're awesome. Shaykh Hamza especially. I've become a groupie.

And I did have fun! It was great.
Third day lectures were also awesome. Dr. Badawi again, Abu Aaliyah, Imam Zaid (joke was funny, heh), Mufti Muhammad ibn Adam. All awesome.

Still think Shaykh Hamza beats Imam Zaid now though.



Dunno what you're talking about.

Islamicans I Met:
Haraamoobobbi- nice sister; funny comment on nametag, heh
MoonStar- just like I expected; very nice
CMood- I think last year somebody had pointed you out to me, but still nice to meet you in person

Umm... that's it? I kept going to Maniac's booth, but didn't run into anybody. But I did meet this blogger from California (Yasmine, if anybody reads Sweep the Sunshine) whose blog I've been reading for years... turned out we had mutual friends in real life. She was awesome.

AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

JAKS yo

wallah it was a pleasure meeting thee too!

And OMAAAAAAAA! I loved the lecturers! Like talk about learning Islam... ugh--I can't describe it--but it totally changed ...everything--wow mom I am still in love with the knowledge retreat, mashAllah =D
RIS.... ummm was totally awesome YAaarrrrr--but as for the lectures.. GOSh, talk about marriage properaganda!!! UGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHH, my head was going to EXPLODE
*perhaps I should edit that since I am at CAIR currently, LOLZ)

Other then that the speakers ))) have a warm place in my heart, on my fb I recorded and uploaded the closing dua from the knowledge retreat and Imam Zaid singing =D heehee he got busy with the mircophone a couple of times.

Originally Posted by IbnMardhiyah

Like I said, its one of those more refined, background details that some people notice. Or maybe its just guys who noticed, or only the people who were sitting at a booth.



There's one vendor that I buy rings from, every year. He wasn't there this year. There were other vendors absent too, but new ones took up the slack.



The only thing I bought from the food court this year was a bottle of water. Skipped the long lines and just went out with friends to places nearby.


I was walking with some buddies along the side of the bazaar and some big african brother was handing out flyers, we don't know about what ... but basically one of my buddies was wearing a baseball cap and he gets pulled to the side and the big guy is like, "yo that hat is haraam, its part of a jewish conspiracy"

...........

apparently because on the top of the hat, there's a total of six holes [for ventilation?] and the bro was telling us that those six holes in fact represented the six-sided jewish Star of David and that it was all part of a global mind-control conspiracy.

OMAAAAA
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLz
how Haramoobobi!

as for shopping.... ugh *not very good at it mind you--LOOOOOLLLz
I bought two nice hijabs for my mother (she was delighted when she saw them)--i got them for 10 bucks, truely the hijab prices were awesome, alhumduillah Someone even bought me a hijab!
Wallah it was so nice meeting all of you! <3
I hope we meet again =D
Until then: assalamm alykum wa rathmatullah baraktuhu!!

[Spice]

What the hell was the above

[ShahRukh]

Food made me sick saturday night that I ended up missing some of the best lectures ...esp Imam Zaids, and prayers in congregation. I went back to the vendor Sunday afternoon and asked the owner why food was inadequate in supply and undercooked, to which he replies "Well! We have to cook really fast to meet the demand and we have to pay the RENT...".

In other words, its all about covering cost and making money, really...and little to no concern for consumers health and satisfaction.

I was under the impression that Muslim vendors usually rent out spaces for advertisement purposes....but Boy, was I wrong!! At the end, It's all about the $Bling $Bling.

That just pissed me off so bad. I should'a just gone out with IbnM to Pizza Hut or something.


On another note, comparing Shaykh Hamza with Imam Zaid...there is simply No comparison. I have mad respect and love for Imam Zaid and I know how powerful of a speaker he really is. In terms of public speaking in the English language, no one comes close to Shaykh Hamza. Think about it for a sec or two, has any English speaking Alim forsake his wordly life for the Ummah and influenced so many muslims and brought them back to Islam? I just cant think of anyone. To reiterate one of my friends, Shaykh Hamza Yusuf is the Tariq Jameel of English.

[LEGALEAGLE]

Did you see Hamza Yusuf doing the talk 'The Alchemist of Happiness' ?

He rambled and didn't answer the questions. One of my friends was in the queue to ask him a question and he dodged it.

However when she went to see him afterwards he wasn't happy with her question but yes he did agree with our conclusions.

So why didn't he provide the *same* answer to the whole audience ?

Anyway it was cool to meet up with some of you folks at RIS. I'm the one wearing the *hawt* blue football Italia top...

[Haramoobobi]

Originally Posted by LEGALEAGLE

Did you see Hamza Yusuf doing the talk 'The Alchemist of Happiness' ?

He rambled and didn't answer the questions. One of my friends was in the queue to ask him a question and he dodged it.

However when she went to see him afterwards he wasn't happy with her question but yes he did agree with our conclusions.

So why didn't he provide the *same* answer to the whole audience ?

Anyway it was cool to meet up with some of you folks at RIS. I'm the one wearing the *hawt* blue football Italia top...

O? I didn't go to the entertainment session; how was that? What was the question?

[LEGALEAGLE]

Originally Posted by Haramoobobi

O? I didn't go to the entertainment session; how was that? What was the question?

Exactly *what* was Imam Ghazzali searching for ? and he engaged in a private quest for faith whereas Islam is family and society. In what way can that be a model for other muslims ?

Native Deen are AWESOME

[Haramoobobi]

Originally Posted by LEGALEAGLE

Exactly *what* was Imam Ghazzali searching for ? and he engaged in a private quest for faith whereas Islam is family and society. In what way can that be a model for other muslims ?

Native Deen are AWESOME

and what was the conclusion reached?

[Timbit]

Originally Posted by ShahRukh

Food made me sick saturday night that I ended up missing some of the best lectures ...esp Imam Zaids, and prayers in congregation. I went back to the vendor Sunday afternoon and asked the owner why food was inadequate in supply and undercooked, to which he replies "Well! We have to cook really fast to meet the demand and we have to pay the RENT...".

In other words, its all about covering cost and making money, really...and little to no concern for consumers health and satisfaction.

I was under the impression that Muslim vendors usually rent out spaces for advertisement purposes....but Boy, was I wrong!! At the end, It's all about the $Bling $Bling.

That just pissed me off so bad. I should'a just gone out with IbnM to Pizza Hut or something.


On another note, comparing Shaykh Hamza with Imam Zaid...there is simply No comparison. I have mad respect and love for Imam Zaid and I know how powerful of a speaker he really is. In terms of public speaking in the English language, no one comes close to Shaykh Hamza. Think about it for a sec or two, has any English speaking Alim forsake his wordly life for the Ummah and influenced so many muslims and brought them back to Islam? I just cant think of anyone. To reiterate one of my friends, Shaykh Hamza Yusuf is the Tariq Jameel of English.

Sucks about the food man. Were you really sick?

My cousin got really sick on Sunday at RIS too. I spent all night with her in the Emergency Room... and she was admitted to hospital after.

It wasn't the bad shawarmas though; she had something else entirely.

And yeah... I just had never heard Shaykh Hamza speak before. Last year, I only heard him translating for Shaykh Abdullah bin Bayyah. But his lecture on Saturday with Pamela Paul was just amazing.

Dunno who Tariq Jameel is though.

[Shivermetimbers]

Originally Posted by LEGALEAGLE

Did you see Hamza Yusuf doing the talk 'The Alchemist of Happiness' ?

He rambled and didn't answer the questions. One of my friends was in the queue to ask him a question and he dodged it.

I noticed that problem throughout the whole conference. Questions were not addressed adequately and key issues were side stepped in favour of academic garble. I want to attend an RIS where the speakers offer practical solutions to problems pertaining to our ummah. Long winded, PC discourses are preventing us from moving forward. As Hakim Jackson said: They're "shackling" us.I hadn't heard much from Hakim Jackson before this conference, and i'm very, very impressed by what I heard this year. He's one man who can effectively explain and elaborate upon controversial issues without compromising our Islamic ideals and principles.

Overall RIS was just lame. I used to look forward to it every year, but this year I didn't feel the pre-RIS excitement and it looks like I wasn't the only one. I don't know if i'll ever attend it again.

[Maniac_Muslim]

You gotta come to the Retreat to truly benefit from RIS in my opinion. I don't really feel the whole 'negativity' that others felt about RIS. I heard good things