[ChotooMotoo]

Originally Posted by ShotgunMessiah

Manliest car:

It's only manly if you fix it yourself.

[sixpakistan]

Originally Posted by PhDGirl

Is the M5 masculine? I don't think of any of the BMWs as particularly masculine or feminine. It's more for different life stages. Like the 3-series is pretty common as a first car, the 5-series is for middle-age and the 7-series is for rich older people.

It's a large, heavy, V-10 powered sedan that screams from 0-60 in 4 seconds & change. I'd say that fits the qualifications for "guy car."

Also, M5 isn't just a 5 series. It's an "M" car (whole different engineering team within BMW). M cars are the epitome of masculinity. The M5 specifically is equipped with a 500 hp/383 tq V10 engine and after SMG was phased out, wasn't available with anything but a traditional stick shift (it's now available with the M DCT, which replaces the old SMG).

Even the interiors of the M cars, with their thick steering wheels (too thick for small hands and accompanied by heavy steering feel), M pedals & leather M shifter scream "this is a MAN'S car."

The highest end 5 - the 550i - is also a 'guy car.' So is the 335i - most women will generally opt for the 328, since they have no need for the additional 70 horses or any desire to modify their car for performance.

Where is a 3 series BMW common as a first car? Beverly Hills? First BMW, maybe..

Originally Posted by Bruinrab

While they are GORGEOUS! I still maintain that the Quattroporte's front fenders look like they belong on an Audi from certain angles. I just haven't found a pic to show that angle (imagine standing five feet away from the car, in line with column between front and rear door, and facing forwards - ie driving next to the car). And my car buff classmate was forced to agree with me.

Never really noticed that before. But I don't have a problem with that per se.. Audis are very aesthetically pleasing vehicles -

S5



R8



RS6



But the GT coupe does blow the Quattroporte out of the water. It has to be one of the best looking cars I've ever seen.

more cars..

aston martin dbs coupe:



the new 911 gt2:

[sixpakistan]

muscle:

[Wolfn]

2010 Chevrolet Camaro:



Audi R8:


Hummer H4/HX:


Lincoln MKR:


Saleen Mustang:


Toyota FJ Cruiser:

[sixpakistan]

Nissan Skyline GT-R



Toyota Tundra



Land Rover HSE



Shelby GT500KR:

[hijabihoodlum]

Originally Posted by sixpakistan

It's a large, heavy, V-10 powered sedan that screams from 0-60 in 4 seconds & change. I'd say that fits the qualifications for "guy car."

Also, M5 isn't just a 5 series. It's an "M" car (whole different engineering team within BMW). M cars are the epitome of masculinity. The M5 specifically is equipped with a 500 hp/383 tq V10 engine and after SMG was phased out, wasn't available with anything but a traditional stick shift (it's now available with the M DCT, which replaces the old SMG).

Even the interiors of the M cars, with their thick steering wheels (too thick for small hands and accompanied by heavy steering feel), M pedals & leather M shifter scream "this is a MAN'S car."

The highest end 5 - the 550i - is also a 'guy car.' So is the 335i - most women will generally opt for the 328, since they have no need for the additional 70 horses or any desire to modify their car for performance.

i don't understand how a v-10 equates to a "guy car." i have yet to try one out, but anything less than a v8 is sub par driving to me. most guys i know have no idea how to drive stick, and sadder still, don't even care to learn; so again, i don't see how manual = "guy." a thick steering wheel to indicate a masculine car? seriously? as for that heavy feel- a lot of people, men and women alike, much prefer it. and finally, if men have any more need for additional horsepower than women do, i'll eat my hijab. i wanna know your definition of need, because i know mine, and it aint got nothin to do with extra horses.

YOU LOSE, SIXPAK.

[Budmano786]

M5's are amazing...but I don't I could live with myself if I paid that much for a car.

[Bruinrab]

Originally Posted by sixpakistan

Never really noticed that before. But I don't have a problem with that per se.. Audis are very aesthetically pleasing vehicles -
R8



But the GT coupe does blow the Quattroporte out of the water. It has to be one of the best looking cars I've ever seen.

Well, I agree that Audis are very elegant looking cars (the R8 is hot, though I don't like the two-tone look from the side). However, if I'm getting a Maserati, I think it should be a little more distinctive.

aston martin dbs coupe:

:drool:

[sixpakistan]

Originally Posted by hijabihoodlum

i don't understand how a v-10 equates to a "guy car." i have yet to try one out, but anything less than a v8 is sub par driving to me.

Sigh. It was only a matter of time.

First, the M5 is specifically created and tuned for driving performance (though to a lesser extent than the M3). The V-10 in that vehicle is a component of that.

Female automotive enthusiasts are relatively few and far between; female automotive enthusiasts who can afford $90k cars are rarer still. 95% of "M" car owners are male; that figure is probably higher still when it comes to the E60 M5.

I guarantee you if you made a scientific survey of men & women from similar backgrounds and asked them if they'd like to drive a V-10 powered automobile, only a small percentage of the few females who knew what a V-10 was to begin with would agree. Probably none of them would be able to push an M5 to even 8/10ths of its limits.

I'd consider that you personally may be an exception in the automotive enthusiast dept, but the statement "anything less than a v8 is sub par driving" is something that would never come from the mouth of an automotive enthusiast, so probably not.

Originally Posted by hijabihoodlum

most guys i know have no idea how to drive stick, and sadder still, don't even care to learn; so again, i don't see how manual = "guy."

What do most guys you know have to do with anything? The majority of vehicles traditionally equipped with manual transmissions are marketed to & sold to men. Yeah, the majority of men don't drive stick nowadays, but a far greater % of men do than women.

Originally Posted by hijabihoodlum

a thick steering wheel to indicate a masculine car? seriously?

The M wheels are thick to the point where it would be uncomfortable to grip if you had small hands. Most women have small hands. The steering wheel is designed for a man's grip.

Originally Posted by hijabihoodlum

as for that heavy feel- a lot of people, men and women alike, much prefer it.

Actually, that's the #1 complaint females tend to have about BMWs in general.. heavy steering feel.

Originally Posted by hijabihoodlum

and finally, if men have any more need for additional horsepower than women do, i'll eat my hijab. i wanna know your definition of need, because i know mine, and it aint got nothin to do with extra horses.

.. You aren't "women," you're "one woman." Nobody "needs" more horsepower, it's just that men tend to be the ones to prefer/desire it.

Originally Posted by hijabihoodlum

YOU LOSE, SIXPAK.

Go sit in a Dodge Charger & comfort yourself with Godiva or Lindt or whatever chocolate. Positive rep me before you leave. Thanks

[sixpakistan]

Originally Posted by Bruinrab

Well, I agree that Audis are very elegant looking cars (the R8 is hot, though I don't like the two-tone look from the side). However, if I'm getting a Maserati, I think it should be a little more distinctive.

The R8s side blades can be had in regular silver as well.. I think they look best in black, though

[Wolfn]

Originally Posted by sixpakistan

The R8s side blades can be had in regular silver as well.. I think they look best in black, though

You can get them in any color, or you can order the car in mono-tone so the sides are the same as the body.

[hijabihoodlum]

Originally Posted by sixpakistan

Sigh. It was only a matter of time.

First, the M5 is specifically created and tuned for driving performance (though to a lesser extent than the M3). The V-10 in that vehicle is a component of that.

Female automotive enthusiasts are relatively few and far between; female automotive enthusiasts who can afford $90k cars are rarer still. 95% of "M" car owners are male; that figure is probably higher still when it comes to the E60 M5.

I guarantee you if you made a scientific survey of men & women from similar backgrounds and asked them if they'd like to drive a V-10 powered automobile, only a small percentage of the few females who knew what a V-10 was to begin with would agree. Probably none of them would be able to push an M5 to even 8/10ths of its limits.

I'd consider that you personally may be an exception in the automotive enthusiast dept, but the statement "anything less than a v8 is sub par driving" is something that would never come from the mouth of an automotive enthusiast, so probably not.



What do most guys you know have to do with anything? The majority of vehicles traditionally equipped with manual transmissions are marketed to & sold to men. Yeah, the majority of men don't drive stick nowadays, but a far greater % of men do than women.



The M wheels are thick to the point where it would be uncomfortable to grip if you had small hands. Most women have small hands. The steering wheel is designed for a man's grip.




Actually, that's the #1 complaint females tend to have about BMWs in general.. heavy steering feel.



.. You aren't "women," you're "one woman." Nobody "needs" more horsepower, it's just that men tend to be the ones to prefer/desire it.



Go sit in a Dodge Charger & comfort yourself with Godiva or Lindt or whatever chocolate. Positive rep me before you leave. Thanks

i only do it because it bothers you so much.

[PhDGirl]

Originally Posted by Budmano786

M5's are amazing...but I don't I could live with myself if I paid that much for a car.

Yeah, one of the aunties has it and she said something similar when she got it. It's pretty funny to see her rollin' in it - she is a speed demon (with a lot of tickets too).

[sixpakistan]

Originally Posted by PhDGirl

Yeah, one of the aunties has it and she said something similar when she got it. It's pretty funny to see her rollin' in it

You know some unusual aunties.

Then again, I know an auntie who drives a 3/4 ton. Takes all kinds..