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Re: The Islamica Scrapbook
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Asalaamualaikum,
Here is a very faint Link I sketched back in 9th grade. Someone marked it with a green marker.
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I thought drawing people was haraam? 
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Re: The Islamica Scrapbook
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I thought drawing people was haraam? 
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I stopped, but I still have these from when i did them.
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it isnt haraam. unless you feel urself as a creator.
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it isnt haraam. unless you feel urself as a creator.
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Drawing faces is Haram. Just because you dont think of you're self as a creator, others may think you're work is AMAZING and praise it, in return giving you more confidence and eventually boosting your self-confidence which can often lead to arrogance. I'm a victim of this too and am trying to stop..... but drawing faces, animals, living things is haram. However, in the Malaki Madhab, there r different opinions...
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Pictures Are Prohibited in Islam
Article taken from "understanding-islam.com":
So many people ask questions about whether or not we as Muslims can draw pictures, have them hanging on the walls in our homes, wear them on our clothes, keep them in books in a drawer in the home. InshaAllah here is the Daleel on why it is Haraam for us as Muslims to draw or have pictures on display.
'Abdullaah ibn Mas'ood (may Allaah be pleased with him) reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "The people who will be most severely punished by Allaah on the Day of Resurrection are the picture-makers." (Reported by al-Bukhaari, see al-Fath, 10/382).
Ibn 'Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: "Every picture-maker will be in the Fire, and for each picture that he made he will be given a soul, and he will be punished in Hell." Ibn 'Abbaas said: If you must make pictures, draw trees and things that do not possess a soul." (Reported by Muslim, 3/1671).
These ahaadeeth clearly indicate that it is haraam to make images of animate beings, whether they be humans or different kinds of animals, whether the images are two- or three dimensional. Pictures are forbidden whether they are drawn, engraved, carved, etched or cast from moulds. The ahaadeeth which forbid making pictures cover all these methods.
The Muslim should accept what the Sharee'ah says, without arguing. Some may say "Well, I am not worshipping these pictures or prostrating to them!" But if you look closely and think about just one of the bad effects of the widespread presence of pictures in our times, you will understand the wisdom behind this prohibition: this bad effect is the provocation of sexual desire which leads to immorality, because of these pictures.
The Muslim should not keep any pictures of animate beings in his house, because this prevents the angels from entering his home. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "The angels do not enter a house where there is a dog or pictures." (Reported by al-Bukhaari, see al-Fath, 10/380).
"So keep your duty to Allaah and fear Him as much as you can . . ." [al-Taghaabun 64:16]
AND ALLAH KNOWS BEST".
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Re: The Islamica Scrapbook
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Drawing faces is Haram. Just because you dont think of you're self as a creator, others may think you're work is AMAZING and praise it, in return giving you more confidence and eventually boosting your self-confidence which can often lead to arrogance. I'm a victim of this too and am trying to stop..... but drawing faces, animals, living things is haram. However, in the Malaki Madhab, there r different opinions....
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then we cant draw flowers,nature too.. come on, open ur mind. islam wants us to be wise.
islam wants us to rise, in science ,art,music and all... We have to look at it in a reasonable point of view.
This is a hobby, this is something you are doing not intending to worship. So if this is the case we must clearly understand that Allah (swt) understands best, and if your deep intentions are clearly for art it can not be haram. Anything might lead to arrogance, that is not right to reject ourselves from everything.
all i know its only makruh to make statues, 3d idols of persons or animals.
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Asallamu 'alaikum wa rahmatulLahi wa barakatuh
Aww, that Link's cute. xD
Yeah, it's haram to draw living creatures that contain souls (animals and humans), but he's posting his old art from before he stopped. We don't draw creatures with souls anymore.
Ah, speaking of drawings, I drew another feather! xD;

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Yeah, it's haram to draw living creatures that contain souls (animals and humans), but he's posting his old art from before he stopped. We don't draw creatures with souls anymore.
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it is NOT haraam.
btw ur drawing is cute.
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it is NOT haraam.
btw ur drawing is cute.
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Sister, since we've always gotten along, I'm saying to you with the utmost respect that you are not qualified to say what is haram and what is not. Granted, there is a lot of debate on the issue of drawing things with souls, it's very irrespsnsible to simply tell someone it is not haram. We must avoid making things okay simply to appease our nafs and continue doing what we like to do. This, if you are wrong sister, will be held against you on the Day. So please refrain from coming right out and saying something is not haram when in reality, you don't know. In any case, here is another answer from a scholar on the subject.
Drawing Pictures for Educational Purposes
Answered by Shaykh Faraz Rabbani, SunniPath Academy Teacher
The question is the permissibility of drawings for say educational purposes I have read the reliance and agree with what Sh. Nuh mentions, but it doesn’t mention for example the ruling on drawing for educational purposes I am aware that there is ikhtilaf [difference of opinion] on this issue, but could u assist us in clarifying this??? E.g. The science teacher at our school was asking what it be possible to draw say the body- to label organs e.g. heart, liver etc or say the eye- in detail, cornea, iris etc. We would like a common policy, in order not to confuse the students.
Walaikum assalam,
In the name of Allah, the inspirer of truth. All praise is to Allah, Most Merciful and Compassionate, and all blessings and peace to our Master Muhammad, his family, companions, and those who follow them.
What is strongly impermissible is to draw the entire human body with all its details, or the face and neck with all its details (except when necessary for immediate educational purposes and the like).
As for drawing an outline of the human body, without detailed features, and labeling the various parts, or drawing the details of a particular part (such as the heart), this is permitted, and this is not disliked if for a reasonable purpose (such as education).
It is mentioned in Imam ` Ala ’ al-Din al-Haskafi’s al-Durr al-Mukhtar that, among the types of pictures that are not prohibited to have are those that are
“(Small) such that the details of their limbs are not apparent to someone who looks down at them standing while they are on the ground, as Halabi mentioned, (or with their head or face cut off) or with an organ effaced out that the body cannot live without, (or of an inanimate object).”
Ibn Abidin clarified in his supercommentary, Radd al-Muhtar,
“(His saying ‘with their head… cut off’) That is, whether it did not have a head in the first place, or it had one and it was effaced.” [Radd al-Muhtar` ala al-Durr al-Mukhtar, ‘Babma yufsidal-salatwama yukrahufiha’]
And Allah knows best.
Wassalam,
Faraz Rabbani.
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Asallamu 'alaikum wa rahmatulLahi wa barakatuh
Aww, that Link's cute. xD
Yeah, it's haram to draw living creatures that contain souls (animals and humans), but he's posting his old art from before he stopped. We don't draw creatures with souls anymore.
Ah, speaking of drawings, I drew another feather! xD;

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VERY nice! Heres a Leaf i've been working on....not quite done yet.

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Sister, since we've always gotten along, I'm saying to you with the utmost respect that you are not qualified to say what is haram and what is not. Granted, there is a lot of debate on the issue of drawing things with souls, it's very irrespsnsible to simply tell someone it is not haram. We must avoid making things okay simply to appease our nafs and continue doing what we like to do. This, if you are wrong sister, will be held against you on the Day. So please refrain from coming right out and saying something is not haram when in reality, you don't know. In any case, here is another answer from a scholar on the subject.
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Well bro, i go with the scholars who say drawing is not haraam. I am not labelling it by myself. And it is reasonable on my mind.
Furthermore, Then photography must be haram too (some scholars say that); and so on..
What i know is ,Allah will judge us upon our intensions.
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Asallamu 'alaikum wa rahmatulLahi wa barakatuh
That leaf's pretty cool looking so far! ^^
And thank ya~
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that's really good bro! mashaAllah.
i think it's haram to draw people/animals too, because we have souls
and about what the turkish sister said,
flowers and nature and things of that sort do not have souls
and it IS possible, in that case, that photography should be wrong also
just my take on all of this.. 
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Abu Hazim replied, “Because you have built and established this world and you have destroyed your Aakhirah, so you hate to go from what you have established to what you have destroyed.”
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that's really good bro! mashaAllah.
i think it's haram to draw people/animals too, because we have souls
and about what the turkish sister said,
flowers and nature and things of that sort do not have souls
and it IS possible, in that case, that photography should be wrong also
just my take on all of this.. 
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I'm my self struggling with this, cuz im doing 3D animation and modeling, but a big part of it is Characters. There are different opinions between scholors about the 3D world because it is all on the computer. Some scholors say that cartoons are ok, since the cartoons are hyper exaggerated, meaning, wierd looks which dont resemble humans. But allahu alam, what Muslimah says is somewhat correct tho, it is our Intention. But & jazakallahu khairan for the compliment.
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