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Old 03-02-2008, 04:58 AM
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Default Re: Belief in Quran is not Sectarianism

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Originally Posted by Biryani View Post
Salahadeen,

I'm not sure I can simplify it anymore for you. Read the original question. The original question is asking about Quran being inaccurate or fabricated. If you still don't understand my post read the original quesiton a number of times and try to think about it.
Well, the original question was:

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Originally Posted by IbnAbdullah View Post
This thread is not about 'sectarianism', this is about Muslims not any sects, and in this thread I want to ask shias if they do takfir on those shia scholars who have disbelieved in Quran by claiming that the Quran is partially 'inaccurate' or fabricated.
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Your question is how can something be accurate while being incomplete. You can understand this concept through a simple project you can do at home:

1) Take a math book
2) Tear out pages 24 and 82
3) Now ponder to yourself. By taking these pages are the formulas in the book inaccurate all of a sudden?
4) Next remind yourself that because you tore out two pages the book is no longer complete.

How do you look yourself int he mirror? Are you not going to be ashamed in front of God that you spent your whole life accusing people of having a certain belief that they did not have? Do you really think Allah (swt) admires this ability? Do you think the scholars you support are going to be proud of you because you, in order to hide your inability to debate, feel it necessary to attribute beliefs to groups which they do not believe?

I hope Allah swt guides you. I'm glad I do not have the same religion as you. My Prophet pbuh was a mercy to mankind not a harrasment the way you are.

Bir
Don't get harrassed, answer this:

Allama Mohsin Kashi, in the preface of Tafsir Safi, quoting traditions of Tehrif, says on page 32 (printed in Tehran, 1375 h)

The conclusion of all these narrations as well as the hadiths which have been reported with the sanad of Ahlul Bayt, is that the Quran which is with us is not exactly as it was revealed to Muhammad s.a.w but in there something is against what Allah revealed and there are some changes and tampering and certainly much of its content has been removed for example the name of Imam Ali from many places, in addition to this it is known from these narrations that the order of this Quran (arrangement of verses and chapters) is not as was agreed by Allah and His Messenger. This all is agreed upon by Ali bin Ibrahim Qummi.

So Allama Mohsin Kashi or Ali bin Ibrahim Qummi are still Muslims?
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