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Old 02-29-2008, 11:09 AM
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Default Re: Imam Jafar on Imam Malik (ra)

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Originally Posted by Salahadeen View Post
Totally not analagous.
It was actually a perfect analogy. It's you who takes the words of the Propet (p) as trivial.

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Why do you refer to Ali (ra) as a prophet, by using "(as)"?
LoL me? You are the one who sends salaam on them in every namaz. You don't have a choiec.


Man save me your copy paste material, as if I haven't been or read the material off that website before. Finding an excuse for "there is no Prophet after me" should be very easy for you guys. After all you guys have gone as far as making excuse of saying Man Qunto Mawla was just a reference to his friendship in the middle of the desert with 1000s of people. If the similarity that is mentioned is indeed specific to that one incident, why does that Prophet talk about what was after him? He says “except there is no Prophet after me”. Prophet made it clear that this status given to Imam Ali was continuous after his death. Therefore it doesn’t matter when Haroon died. What matters is that Haroon was Musa’s Caliph during his life and Imam Ali was given this status by being compared to Haroon, and he held this status after the Prophet’s death.

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Just because Imam Jafar (ra) or Imam Malik (ra) said to pray with our hands to our sides, that does not mean that this is the correct opinion. We are mainstream orthodox Muslims--not Shi`as. We don't believe Imam Jafar (ra) or Imam Malik (ra)--or Imam Abu Haneefa (ra) or Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal (ra)--were perfect or infallible. They can have incorrect opinions.


LOL man do you guys listen to anyone? I thought in the other thread Jafar Sadiq's knowledge was a miracle form Allah and he got this knowledge from Allah and now all of a sudden "doesn't mean it's correct opinion". When you guys can unite on where to put your hands in Namaz then please get back to me, cuz' apparently you guys aren't even willing to listen to Jafar Sadiq or Imam Malik. You don't have a any concept of leadership in your religion. Your belief lacks it, and you will suffer for it till the end, you will be ruled by people of your own belief who will submit down to the tyrants like they do today. Any fasiq can be your leader and any fasiq can lead your namaz and you don't have a problem with that in your belief. Do you like folding your hands because the Jews did so and Ayesha said she hated it when people did that? Or do you like to do it because of the hadeeth that says pray your namaz as if it's your last namaz, and just incase you die you die and get buried with your arms folded like the Christians?

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You *do* know that Sunnis go "against their Imam" in many matters?
Yah true, it must be a habit since the time of Prophet's death bed, or the time of Fadaq or Usamah's army expedition etc. etc. Kinda answers all the Sunnis objective of ". . .if these were students of Jafar Sadiq then why do they have different teachings. . . " or "why did people deviate. . . " You guys keep going against your Imams, I wonder when you'll go against your Imam Muawiyah and Yazeed.
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