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Originally Posted by Arabesque
I don't know, MC. You have the right to say or feel what you want, and so do I.
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I know, i was just saying
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Originally Posted by Arabesque
You think the Americans saved a lot more Muslims than they killed? Ok, if you think so. You can ignore the proxy wars they fight, and the oppressive governments they support, and the toxic weapons the used here and there ... you can ignore all this if you wish, simply because you haven't experienced it first-hand, and alhamdulillah you haven't. And I sincerely pray that you don't. I pray that no Muslim ever experiences such barbarianism.
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no, i'm saying that even if you take the highest estimate of casualties for every war that America has ever fought against muslims directly or by proxy (and the total is high but not astonishingly so), Americans have saved more muslim lives than those numbers. For example, Jonas Salk by himself has saved tens or hundreds of millions of muslims. Many more than all of the casualties in all those wars combined. And thats just one American. The stable forms of insulin that are used now were mostly developed by an American pharma company called Eli Lilly, and every type 1 diabetic in the world and many type 2 diabetics owe their lives to those drugs.Thats millions more in the muslim world. btw, most of the drugs that are used to control type 2 diabetes were either developed by American companies in the USA or by European companies in the USA. Much of the oil refining, energy generation, agricultural, industrial, and transport developments of the last century that allowed modern societies to develop have come from the United States. Many people owe their lives to these developments because without them, populations could not possibly be as high as they are today. America was the primary donor for the eradication of smallpox, which traditionally was endemic and extremely deadly in many muslim countries. Many millions of muslim lives were saved when the WHO eradicated smallpox (lead by an American doctor and teams of American doctors).
The list actually can continue on and on with technology and medical advancements, safety procedures, institutional developments and protocols, public health measures, equipment, architectural and engineering developments, etc. All of which have made an impact on the world to allow for a population of 6 billion to inhabit it and have saved many billions of lives over the century (probably a significant portion of its inhabitants over the last century, based on medical advances alone). Many others who are not American have made a huge impact on this world and have contributed to all of these advances, there are some areas where Americans are not the primary actors. But in many, many areas, Americans have been, and its had a massive positive impact on the world, its pretty undeniable. And when you compare all of the muslims who are alive because of these things and the ones that have been killed in Iraq over the decades, the Arab Israeli wars, Afghanistan, and whichever other ones you decide to include.. the numbers cannot compare
Of course, its possible all of these advances would have come without the United States of America, its also possible that all of the muslims America has killed (or more) would have been killed by some others in America's absence. That kind of speculation is meaningless (but fun)
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Originally Posted by Arabesque
I hope the USA is reduced to just another country on the map, and it will insha'Allah. You want to be a world police, prepare to take a fatal bullet.
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probably not in our lifetime, but anything can happen. allahu alam