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Old 02-24-2008, 01:25 PM
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Default Re: do you guys consider Iran to be a just islamic state?

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Originally Posted by IbnAbdullah View Post
Well, you can't prove you do believe in the belief of seal of Prophets because all you do is using the 'name disguise' of Imams otherwise they are your 12 Prophets after Prophet Muhammad s.a.w. One can call his 'wife' his sister, that can't protect her from getting pregnant, innit?
We were talking about Iran &- Just Islamic state.
Some how we are discussing Prophet and Imamet -

But I don’t mind.


At least before coming up with such attacks as mentioned in your post - I sincerely wish you would do some home work - however little.

Are you also going to accuse Allah (SWT)

“And when Abraham was tested by his Lord with certain commands and he fulfilled them. Then He said: Lo! I appoint you as an Imam for mankind.”
[2:124]

Remember Ibrahim(A) was a Nabi --- but he is made Imam after the test.
so passing the test earns a different level.

Even before Allah (SWT) the status of Nabi is different from Imam.


And what about these Hadith?

Sahih al-Bukhari Hadith: 9.329 --- Narrated Jabir Ibn Samura: I heard the Prophet saying, “There will be twelve commanders (Amir).” He then said a sentence which I did not hear. My father said, the Prophet added, “All of them will be from Quraish.


In Musnad Ahmed ibn Hanbal, the same tradition has been recorded as follows:
“The Prophet (PBUH&HF) said: “There shall be twelve Caliphs for this community, all of them from Quraish.” [Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v5, p106]


In Sahih Muslim, the traditions are as follows:
Narrated Jabir Ibn Samura: The Prophet (PBUH&HF) said: “The matter (life) will not end, until it is passed by twelve Caliphs.” He then whispered a sentence. I asked my father what the Prophet said. He said, the Prophet added: “All of them will be from Quraish. [Book #20, Hadeeth #4477]

The Prophet (PBUH&HF) said: “The affairs of people will continue to be conducted (well) as long as they are governed by the twelve men.” [Book #20, #4478]

The Prophet said: “This religion would continue to remain powerful and dominant until there have been twelve Caliphs.” [Book #20, #4482]

The Prophet (PBUH&HF) said: “The Islamic religion will continue until the Hour (day of resurrection), having twelve Caliphs for you, all of them will be from Quraish.” [Book #20, Hadeeth #4482]

To keep this short I will stop here ------ With One Question

Where are your 12 Imams?
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