[AliFazel]

Originally Posted by Salahadeen

Actually, Bahais don't claim to be Muslim, and Ahmadis also recite the Shahadah.

Do Ahmadis consider prophet (SAW) as the last of the messengers? How does that go with accepting the Sahada in sincerity? The Qur’an brought by prophet (SAW) clearly declares prophet (SAW) as the last of the prophets – To accept Prophet (saw) as in the sahada also means to accept the message – ‘Qur’an’.

Sunnis and Shi`as do not see eye to eye on the Shahadah or the issue of Khatm an-nabuwat. The Sunnis say that the seal of Prophets means that there can be no person after the Prophet (s) who has the rank of Prophethood or Messengership, whereas the Shi`as believe that they can have Imams who are higher in rank.

So we don't see eye to eye on this, dear colleague. This is not an attack on your belief...only showing the difference between Sunnis and Shi`as in regards to the Shahadah and the Khatm an-nabuwat.

SEE – You did not even bother to check the accuracy of your statement – and you would rather oppose us on this inaccurate view.

In reality – According to shias, There is no prophet after Muhammad (SAW) nabuwat ends with prophet (SAW).

Office of Imamet is different -- They are not messengers. <period.>

Imam Ali (A) acquired all the knowledge from Prophet (saw). In fact he was trained by Prophet (SAW) ---What ever we say about Ali (A) prophet was far more then that.
None of the Imam supersede the office of Prophet (SAW). You can go and ask any Shia Ulemah and this is the only answer you will get.

The argument about the imam and Nabi is quiet different.

If you want to know the truth asks the Ulemah --- not the laymen.

If I were a Shi`a, then I too would love Iran, no doubt. There can be no doubt that Iran has been extremely beneficial to Shi`as. They have spent hundreds of millions of dollars pumping out Shi`a dawah materials, funding Shi`a movements, and fighting to create a Shi`a crescent.

LOL – the magic word again - Shi`a crescent.
This was an original scare mongering magic word by the pro-American pawns.
They need to come up with some catchy word to push their sick satanic idea into people’s minds. --- Aren’t there enough Sunni populated countries in the world? Why should the three Shia populated regions bother you?

You said, “If I were a Shi`a, then I too would love Iran, no doubt”. BUT the question is Since you are not Shia why do you hate IRAN? Note - we do not hate any Sunni country. We hate the western pawn ruling these countries just as you do.

BTW – Saudi are spending hundreds of millions of dollars pumping out wahabi dawah materials – I don’t see you complaining about that --- I don’t see why this should bother you.

But we are not Shi`as. We are Sunnis. And for Sunnis, Iran has been nothing but bad news. Yes, the Sunnis of Iran did help with the revolution, but what happened after Khomeini came to power? He jailed the Sunni scholars, banned their organizations, and persecuted even the Sufis...Please visit the Ahle Sunnat Iran website insha-Allah.

So conclusion is: Iran is great for Shi`as, not so great for Sunnis.

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You say, “And for Sunnis, Iran has been nothing but bad news.”

- Has Saudi been a good news for Sunni? – With the pawns ruling saudia, show me one incident where they fired a single bullet at Israel
– And wasn’t Pakistan that fully supported US, in its war on Afghanistan? Was it not Saudi and the Emirates that gave US their bases and land and sea space to launch the attack?
- What about Bosnia which is largely a Sunni country – Did it ever receive weapons from Sunni lands to confront Serbs? Was it not Iran that made deal with Croatia and sent shipment of Arms to Bosnia? <You probably remember one of the shipment was caught and was prevented from reaching the Bosnians> – Go and ask the Bosnians who came to train their fighters to fight the Serbs – Was it not the Irani ex-war veterans?
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Through these discussions we learn each others view points -
Its not supposed to be shia-sunni confrontation
My purpose is remove this stupid misunderstanding and this unnecessary hatered.

Can't you see that?