[Salahadeen]

Originally Posted by fighter007

allah is above the seven heavens on his arsh, is that correct answer ?

Yes, that is the correct answer. Masha-Allah. I think, however, we should say Allah is *above* his arsh, not on his arsh, but I may be nitpicking on that, wallahu Aalim.

Originally Posted by AbuAlAbbas

Is ALLAH SWT in places that are najis? ex. bathrooms, strip clubs etc...?

This is an excellent point, dear brother. This is what the pantheists are insinuating.

Originally Posted by ChotooMotoo

Honestly, I've never understood the idea of Allah (swt) occupying a specific physicality, as Allah (swt) is not, to my understanding, anything we can comprehend as a physical being.

To me, everything in the first posts points to Allah (swt) being far above any human concept, yet still existing. The sky is vast, pointing to the heavens would seem to me to be an indication that Allah (swt) existance is as vast as the sky. The common Christian and Jewish belief at the time was that God was to be found in Churches, so one has to pray in churches (this is especially true of Jews who speak in the old testament of God visiting their temple in Jerusalem), Islam erased that idea. Allah (swt) is not found only in the Masjid, and since Prophet Muhammad (saw) prayed in places other than the Masjid, including the great outdoors, I think his example shows the non-locality of Allah (swt) compared to the Christian and Jewish concepts of the time.

Dear sister, the Prophet (s) asked "WHERE is Allah?" It was he himself who asked this, and so therefore to say that Allah has no "where-ness" is calling the Prophet (s) a liar. To deny the where-ness of Allah is to deny the existence of Allah. I hope you understand the dangerousness of this belief, dear sister. When we ask: "Where is Allah?" Either you can say:

1. Allah is everywhere. (pantheistic belief, equating creation with Creator)

2. Allah is nowhere. (Disbelief in Allah, a negation of Allah...this is what the atheists say!)

3. Allah has a "where", which is distinct from his creation, separated from His creation, above them and distinct from them.

There are no other possibilities (!!!).

As for terms such as "physicality", then this is a non-Shara'i term, and therefore we do not accept or reject it, but instead we inquire as to what is meant by it.

Typically, the Ashari argument is that Allah cannot exist in time and space. What is interesting though is that neither the philosophers nor the Asharis have managed to agree on a definition for time and space. How can they then negate from Allah that which they do not know?

For us, if you mean by the space, that which exists in the creation itself, then Allah is not contained in space. Allah is not composed of "matter", if that is what you mean by "space."

If you mean by space, the location beyond the creation, where nothing of the creation exists--which is distinct from "matter"-- then yes, we do affirm that Allah is there. You can call it, place, location, or whatever, so long as we affirm that Allah is beyond His creation.

We should stick to what the Prophet (s) taught us, which was that where Allah is above the heavens.