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Originally Posted by MossadConspiracy

No, of course I wouldnt. Support for Egypt is a sine qua non. I'm Egyptian.

That's fine, but then you should understand that this perspective makes no sense for any non-Egyptian American.

Originally Posted by MossadConspiracy

yeah of course, but not all of my relatives did, not all of my countrymen did, and not all of the immigrants in this country that are productively trying to make a better life for themselves did. I tend to be pretty sympathetic to undocumented immigrants because I come from an immigrant background and Ron Paul is by far the most punishing anti-immigrant candidate in the field from either party. Also, I may be wrong but I thought he wanted to end birthright citizenship altogether, not just for the children of illegal immigrants. That means that both of my older siblings would not have been born citizens and depending on the timing I might not have been born a citizen either. And with all things considered, I really wouldnt trust Ron Paul to make it too much easier for these young immigrants to become naturalized. Actually, I'd probably expect the opposite. In any case, he would deny US citizenship to millions of people that are no different from me, and theres no way i could support that.

You said "yeah of course" in response to whether your parents arrived here illegally, but your response indicates otherwise.. ?

Anyway, again, there is a bigger picture here than what's good for you and people like you.

Originally Posted by MossadConspiracy

I dont know, you could be right about the newsletter thing. But then again maybe not, the staff member who wrote them might really have been accurately portraying Ron Paul's views, as staffers are typically instructed to do when they write stuff in other people's name. Sometimes being too accurate is just as bad as making stuff up

The newsletter was unauthorized & he repudiated it.

Originally Posted by MossadConspiracy

anyway, you may find alot thats palatable about him, but besides his view on reducing American support for Israel (which is a sorely needed viewpoint in American politics), I dont think I can find a single thing to support about him. Even in areas where I generally agree with his stances, like being pro-business and pro-doctor, he takes it to an extreme that I cant possibly agree with. The environment isnt as important as stalinist hippies make it out to be, but it still does have some importance. And social security, medicare, medicaid, and welfare do have some value. They keep millions of people alive and out of poverty in this country. These arent just minor things that can be brushed off with a simple "I dont agree with him on every single subject", these are the fundamentals of how American society and government are organized. Ron Paul is too radical

Here's what I like about Ron Paul -

- Pledges to end foreign entanglement. This doesn't just mean Israel. It means an end to American imperialism as we know it, which would allow truly Islamic states to arise and for the will of the people to be reflected in the leadership of Muslim lands.

- Anti-interference into personal lives of citizens by the federal government - unless their behavior is harming or infringing on the rights of others.

- He approaches the latter half of the previous statement from a socially conservative point of view. His core values aren't that far off from those of most Muslims. Whereas most Muslims have 0 in common with say, Hillary Clinton or Rudy Giuliani's views.

- From a character perspective, he's strongly principled & outspoken.