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Originally Posted by sixpakistan
I'm not sure where you get that idea.
Sayyedina Abu Bakr Siddiq (RA) appointed Sayyedina Umar (RA). Sayyedina Uthman (RA) was chosen by a majlis-e-shura, so that would be oligarchical.
The Shia view is that the Caliph must be of the family/lineage of the Prophet (SAW).
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The Shia also believe that the Caliph is appointed by his predecessor, they don't vote from a group of people who are Ahl Bait, the Caliph appoints his successor, who also must be Ahl Bait
I dont know about Abu Bakr (r) appointing Umar (r), but I do know that Abu Bakr (r) was himself elected, and Umar (r) could not have appointed Uthman (r) since Umar (r) was killed...but I will check on this and post later.....also, you said he was chosen by a 'shura', which means 'council'
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Furthermore, the Qur'an (from which the Sharia is derived) say the following:
"42:38 and who respond to [the call of] their Sustainer and are constant in prayer; and whose rule [in all matters of common concern] is consultation among themselves; [38] and who spend on others out of what We provide for them as sustenance"
'and whose rule [in all matters of common concern] is consultation among themselves'
If that isn't democracy, I don't know what is...
"4:59 O you who have attained to faith! Pay heed unto God, and pay heed unto the Apostle and unto those from among you who have been entrusted with authority; and if you are at variance over any matter, refer it unto God and the Apostle, if you [truly] believe in God and the Last Day. This is the best [for you], and best in the end."
'..Pay heed unto God, and pay heed unto the Apostle and unto those from among you who have been entrusted with authority...'
Basically it is giving us a hierarchy, first consult God (Qur'an), then consult the Apostle/Prophet (Hadith/Sunnah), and then the leader from among you (political leader)