[Arabesque]

Originally Posted by Ugur

From this I infer that you are not a religious Muslim who is against all nation states, who is working toward the Qur'anic injunction to unite all Muslims. Right?

Oh, interesting. So now you're questioning my beliefs based on some serious twisting of meaning. Good job.

However, I agree that if Turks have the right to have their own nation state, Kurds have that right too. But that is in idealistic situation. If kurds try to have their own state in this actual situation, they will have to start a very big war with the Turks who see that the greatest possible abomination that they can face is yet another division of their lands. It is downright evil to want Muslims to fight each other. That's why religious Kurds do not want an independent state. They do not want hositilites between the Turkish and Kurdish brothers.

I'm glad you agree. But I don't see why there should be a war at all? Why are they denied what they should rightfully have like the rest of us in the region?

Of course I don't want Muslims to fight each other, which is why I think the best thing to do is to peacefully allow for them to establish their own state. If it was up to Turkey, it wouldn't have given up all the wealthy lands. And as bad a choice as I think it was, the Arabs aligned themselves with non-Muslims to free themselves from Ottoman rule. If they had not, today's oil reserves would have probably been under the Sultan's control, who would most likely not use it to develop the areas from which the oil is pumped out.

I'm sure religious people everywhere do not want a war. Even non-religious people would agree. There's no need for a war. Just a peaceful resolution to the problem. If Turkey doesn't want to give up its Kurdish-dominated lands, then maybe it should just leave the Kurds in Iraq alone. If they are successful in establishing an independent Kurdish state in the north of Iraq, then great. Why not?

Look at me. I am a native of what is today Bulgaria. Do my Bulgarian Turkish brothers demand an independent Turkish state from Bulgaria? No. In the 1980s the communist Bulgarian state forced the Turkish Muslims to change their names into Christian Bulgarian names and applied all sorts of oppression on the Turkish natives of the country. Turks were humiliated and marginalized in all spheres of Bulgarian life. Did they resort to terrorism to beat this humiliation? No, they did not. Did Turkey support Turkish separatists who want to separate from Bulgaria or join the mainland Turkey? No, our government did not. Why are the Kurds in North Iraq not following the same peaceful way? Let me tell you why: Because their problem is with a Muslim state and not with the Christian Bulgarian state like my countrymen, they are supported by western powers. Even the US has had to admit that American weapons are going to the terrorists in North Iraq. It has been proven that American and probably other western officers are regularly meeting with the terrorists in Mount Kandil. Supporting the Kurdish terrorists means supporting the western imperialistic ambitions over the lands of Islam. Even conscious religious Kurds themselves see this reality very clearly and are against the PKK and separation from Turkey. But those who have been educated by westerners or westernized, mentally bastardized teachers in their schools support the terrorists and their anti-Muslim western collaborators. Shame on them.

You identify yourself as a Turk. They see themselves as Kurds. There's a huge difference when it comes to where one's loyalty lies.

By the way, I am not a fan of the secular Turkish state either. Inshallah I will be working toward a cultural Islamic revolution in Turkey and in the entire world and we will found a new world. I see no way a true Muslim can have any other intention.

I pray for whatever is best for the Muslim ummah.