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Old 10-15-2007, 10:10 PM
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This is in response to the post you posted in my Child Boxing: Exploitation or Necessity thread; it's more relevant here.

http://www.islamicaweb.com/forums/ne...-necessary.htm

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Originally Posted by shadha View Post
Thank you. This is another perfect example of people having children that they can’t afford. The children get exploited and abused.

There is no excuse under the sun that would justify parents enslaving and/or exploiting their children for money. Absolute child abuse and it’s a damn shame. It’s so disgusting how commonplace child labor, child slavery, child brides & child prostitution has become. The governments are failing these poor innocent children, and so is society as a whole. We are not doing enough to prevent & stop it.

First thing that came to my mind when I read this article was dog fighting. With force, raising and training dogs [in this case young girls] to beat the living **** out of each other for money. I wonder how many girls have died from this brutal abuse and exploitation thus far.

I’m sorry, to me, even children who are forced into karate or other sports here and get verbally attacked by their parents constitutes child abuse. How many times have we heard parents cursing their young children out who aren’t doing well on the field? When I was doing TKD when I was younger, a father was yelling and calling his daughter a ***** because she wasn’t fighting up to his standards. Child. Abuse. I don’t want to imagine what happened to that girl once home.


shadha-
What is your proposed solution? Population control helps to some extent, but it starts with proper sexual education and birth control resources. Without those, and undoubtedly those are lacking in these types of communities, there's nothing that one can really do. Abstaining from intimate relations is not the solution. You're going to end up having a bunch of snipers or something, as a result of all that sexual aggression.

Population control will end up having awful consequences. Take China, for example. They've always valued boys over girls, but with the one child policy (even though ever since 2002 it's been a bit more relaxed policy), their male to female ratio is now royally screwed. In fact, probability theories suggest that in some years time there's going to be single, marriageable aged women everywhere. It's actually evident from now on.

Also, their economy is booming and they need all their males to work their butts off to keep up with their country. The ratio of elderly people and adult children has also increased significantly, and they've got this new "4:2:1" concept as a result. It basically means that more couples (2) will be responsible for one child (1) AND both the couples' parents (4).

So you see, there are all these disastrous social consequences.

More details at: NEJM -- The Effect of China's One-Child Family Policy after 25 Years

Oh, I also forgot to mention the icing on the cake. Which is, in some localities in China, there's an 'area quota' of children. So though everyone is given the notion that they can have as many children as they want, there's still a quota. But every couples in the area is not going to know the family plans of every other couple in the area and naturally, the locality is going to go over the quota. In such cases, the government (though they won't admit it) rounds up the pregnant women in the locality, snatching them away from their husbands, drives them to a hospital and forcefully aborts each and everyone one of their children.

Read this for more info: NPR : Cases of Forced Abortions Surface in China


[I'm also posting this in your Why Have Kids? thread because it's more relevant there).
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