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Old 08-02-2007, 06:50 PM
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Default Re: Obama would strike Pakistan!

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Originally Posted by Arabesque View Post
We have a different perspective on things. Like one brother had reminded me recently, al-dunya sijn al-mu'min. Of course I don't deliberately wish for hardships to come my way or to befall my country, but if it's going to reverse the current situation and bring an everlasting peace, then it's a small price to pay.

The princes of Europe fought bloody wars for decades, which ended with the Peace of Westphalia. The peace treaty did not come about until a comprehensive war was fought, and until all parties were done with killing each other. As long as we're at the receiving end, the bloodthirsty Bush administration will not stop it's butchering of Muslims. Even power can stop them, not a humiliated and defeated rival who silently takes the blows.

We can all be pragmatic and forward thinking when it comes to our countries, but we also need to be equally spiritual and have faith in Allah's word. I don't think Allah (swt) had said, just play along and don't resist - your wealth and personal security is all that matters. If you're one to think like that, you're totally free. I, on the other hand, would like to think in the context of an Ummah that was described by the Prophet as one body.
Salam

good comments as usual, but you need to remember that in the last 'comprehensive' war that was fought, which established the current world order, over 60 million people lost their lives.

Since faith is part of this argument, we should remember that Allah governs everything. if he wants another war to happen which kills 60 million or 100 million or everybody on earth, he can cause that to happen. likewise if he wants some just and peaceful order to come about for everyone on earth (and we may or may not disagree on the form of that order), then he can cause that order to be established without the loss of a single innocent life. We should want the latter to happen rather than the former. Thats all i'm saying. No reason to wish war or death on any innocent people, let alone our own countrymen

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