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Default Re: Obama would strike Pakistan!

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Originally Posted by MossadConspiracy View Post
i did pick up on the sarcasm, but i thought it was worthwhile to make the comments that i made anyway

in any case, you are right that sometimes wars are necessary, but in general people use this argument to justify their own countries attacking others, not having their country destroyed in a war. Its not a good thing to go through, alot of people are killed and hurt, and often societies never fully recover. There are parts of the world that still havent recovered from wars fought many centuries ago. That isnt a process i would ever wish on my country or anyone else's, but to each their own

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We have a different perspective on things. Like one brother had reminded me recently, al-dunya sijn al-mu'min. Of course I don't deliberately wish for hardships to come my way or to befall my country, but if it's going to reverse the current situation and bring an everlasting peace, then it's a small price to pay.

The princes of Europe fought bloody wars for decades, which ended with the Peace of Westphalia. The peace treaty did not come about until a comprehensive war was fought, and until all parties were done with killing each other. As long as we're at the receiving end, the bloodthirsty Bush administration will not stop it's butchering of Muslims. Even power can stop them, not a humiliated and defeated rival who silently takes the blows.

We can all be pragmatic and forward thinking when it comes to our countries, but we also need to be equally spiritual and have faith in Allah's word. I don't think Allah (swt) had said, just play along and don't resist - your wealth and personal security is all that matters. If you're one to think like that, you're totally free. I, on the other hand, would like to think in the context of an Ummah that was described by the Prophet as one body.
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