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Old 05-16-2008, 08:53 AM
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Default Re: The "Praising the Beloved (saw)" thread

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hey timbit hope your well...lol i was expecting somebody to raise objections.. its cool tho

in relation to poetry in general - the key thing (i think) is to remember that words are often used in an irregular manner to express love - and the interpretation of phrases/adjectives is never really literal, so poetry cant be anaylsed in the same way you'd analyse a piece of narrative. a play on words if you like. thats what makes poetry what it is. so whenever you read poetry, you have to read it with an open mind...

but the quote you sited we can look at that and i can explain some kind of justifications

"My heart races as I remember, the true nature of your splendor,
How glorious are you? Ya Rasool Allah!"


i think thats striaght forward, contemplating on the miracles that he (saw) did is enough - for example going to see Allah and returning in the blink of an eye, subhanallah.

The universe at your feet, since the arsh is your seat,
How immense a feat? Ya Rasool Allah!


this is because he is the highest of the creation, and again when he (Saw) went on miraj he literally was on the arsh, and thus the universe was at his feet. he (saw) actually went thru the heavens with the same sandals he wore

On that day, I’ll have nothing to say,
Except beg the pardon of you, Ya Rasool Allah!


its established that on the day of judgement we will seek the intercession of the Prophet (SAW) out of desperation

The moon has no right, to illuminate the night,
Without the permission of you, Ya Rasool Allah!


i dont wish to open another can of worms, but as stated in hadith - and explained by sheikh abdul qadir jilani (ra) and many many other classical scholars - that the light of the Prophet (saw) is the first creation, and the light of the sun is but a minute percentage compared to the light of the Prophet (saw).

also, as is well known, he (saw) broke the moon in half when he was a baby, so the word "permission" really is used to show the authority and superiority the Prophet (saw) has over the moon.

The rain that descends, bringing joy that never ends,
Is but a mercy from you, Ya Rasool Allah!


he (saw) is the mercy to the universes. and there are hadith actually about how the reason Allah blesses us with rain is because of the abdaal, (the substitute saints) - due to the blessing they have, Allah blesses the land with rain. - if this is so with awliya, then how about the blessing we receive because of the blessing of the Prophet (saw)?

i hope that makes sense...i dont want to de-rail the thread....but let me know if you think its still a slippery slope :P

uh yeh i did

take care, wasalam.
I get it... you're being creative and all that.

But... yes, I think it's a very slippery slope. I'm not comfortable with saying the Prophet SAW has authority over the moon or rain or anything else that only Allah has authority over and I think saying things like that, even if not meant to be taken literally, can lead to bad, bad things like...the dreaded S-word.

Rida: Ahhahaha. Yeah, there are much better translations.

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