[Hanbali]

Originally Posted by PhDGirl

I don't need to prove anything because you are fully capable of looking it up. Just so you know, each VA is affiliated with a medical school and its academic medical center and just about every medical school is affiliated with a VA.

Please provide proof for this claim.

I tried to google it but could find nothing.

Originally Posted by Revert

No this post betrays YOUR lack of knowledge, you didn't factor in Taxes nor living cost. You have no clue how the world works for a working American. I work for $9.40 and hour in a Bakery, i have $1000 per month in rent, $200 in utilities, and $200 in food. Thats $1400 per month. My mothly wage is around $1504 take into account the fact i have to pay taxes and SS and Union costs i make $1300, i run $100 into the red each month. At this moment in time I am having to take a second job just to amke ends meet.

So your little thoery about making hijrah was cute but doesn';t reflet the true picture of a regular working stiff. Your time in Pakland has whittled away your brain son.

First off, I pray that Allah [swt] makes your life easier. Insha-Allah.

Having said that, I find your argument to be a load of crap. My grandparents--on both sides--migrated out of India completely penniless. They arrived in Pakistan completely penniless. It was for this reason that they were given the title of Muhaajir.

You say that you spend $1000 on rent and $200 on electricity. If you needed to make hijrah, then you can find a cheaper place to live in for a month or two. My black friend--who lived in the ghetto of Oakland--was kicked out of his house when he converted to Islam; he lived on the street for many months (almost a year); he would sleep in the mosque. He could simply have reneged and returned to his home. Yet, he did not. He persevered and joined the ranks of the righteous, and those who have suffered for Islam. And by the way, this was when he was only sixteen years old!

So imagine that this sixteen year old kid can do this, just because he did not want to renounce Islam. So why would you want to go even one step further and commit HIGH TREASON against Islam by joining the kufaar in war against the Muslims?

In any case, you can find a shared place to live in for only $200 per month. I know you can find this, because Pakistanis who go from here to live in America always find such places to live in. You share the room with a million people, but it's only for a few months.

So that is $1000 and $200 taken care of. As for your $200 worth of food, then you can just buy a few boxes of cereal and live off of that for two months. When Bani Israel made hijrah, do you know that they ate the same bland food every single day?

In other words, if you want to make hijrah, you can make sacrifices and do it. Where there is a will, there is a way.

And you didn't respond to the fact that you can simply go AWOL. When the army lands in Iraq, just disappear into Iraq.

Originally Posted by Revert

I guess I can, maybe get a third job and forgo the inconvenience of sleep..

Yes, you could do that. You can work 120+ hours per week and make over $4500 a month, even on minimum wage. A surgical resident churns out that many hours per week, so surely you can do it for a few months in order to make hijrah.

Originally Posted by Jamroll

Also, I think we're ignoring another huge issue - that of setting up home in a new place. Maybe you could ignore all the difficulties poor people have in meeting their monthly minimum, let alone the near impossibility for them to save money up, and say for argument's sake they got the money from somewhere to emigrate somehow. What about when they reach their migration point, their new home that they've made hijra to?

Allah [swt] will provide.

Like I said, if you save up a measly $1000. My monthly rent in Pakistan is only $50. And that is considered on the high end here. I have a great place, Masha-Allah. So you could sustain yourself for over 2 years if you just saved up $1000...that means even if you do not work at all in those 2 years.

But like I said, you can work for a call center, and make 50,000+ rupees per month here. And they will hire you in a second.

As for food here, you can get by in a few dollars a day.