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jinnz: I may be mistaken, but I don't recall ever debating applying the Shari'ah in any Western non-Muslim state.

Yes, there was an entire thread about it. I don't remember which thread and honestly I don't feel like digging it up. It had something to do with Canadian Muslims wanting to have a Shari'ah legal system.

jinnz: I haven't been on Islamica as often as I usually am because of exams so I wasn't aware of those comments. If he's been haranguing you, then you have every right to state your grievance against him, however, I couldn't help but notice a tint of disdain in your post regarding those who performed hijra overseas.

Wouldn't you think I of all people would be more than happy to have America-bashers pack their **** up and leave? Why would I hold disdain against them? I would eagerly help them pack. I can't stand them. They are of no use to this country. My post you were referring to was of me finding it highly amusing when they return after all their bashing.

jinnz: There are hadeeth that discuss gender segregation, the three pronouncements for talaq, that limit the movement of women in society, etc.

Mind posting those Hadith?

jinnz: However, I was also referring more to the criminal aspects of Islamic law such as stoning, lashing, amputation not to mention disparate treatment on gender issues such as inheritance, witnessing, all of which are established either in the Qur'an or through mutawattir narrations. While rejecting a isolated or singular narrations may be merely sinful and not disbelief, rejecting narrations with multiple chains of transmission that rise to a sufficient level of probity is kufr. Based on our previous discussions, you seemed to have problems with the things I highlighted in the first sentence of this paragraph.

From the list you mentioned: "stoning, lashing, amputation not to mention disparate treatment on gender issues such as inheritance, witnessing," I only have a problem with stoning. I don't recall ever arguing against the other things you brought up. So again, why would I have trouble fitting in within an Islamic environment?


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