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Old 05-09-2008, 03:17 AM
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Default Re: Mandatory Military Service

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Originally Posted by ChotooMotoo View Post
You know, that works well for you, who comes from a very rich family and has the OPTION of moving. Not everyone can. I don't think it's as black and white as you're trying to make it. Allah (swt) knows best. If you TRY to get out of it, and can't, then you never know, inshallah Allah (swt) will forgive you, if indeed it's really wrong.

You tell me, what is some poor ghetto Muslim kid who was born in the US and has no funds or passport for going to Canada going to do if they get drafted, and their objection is denied. Do you really think Allah (swt) is going to condemn them to hell? Do you really think that Allah (swt) is that unjust? I'm talking about when someone has tried, and been unable to change their situation. That ayat, to me, speaks of someone who never tried to change their situation.

Do you see what I'm trying to say?
Whoever aids the kufaar against the Muslims becomes a murtad (apostate). End of story.

Shaykh Abdullah ibn Humaid said:
[Whoever] helps them (the kufaar) against the believers, then such constitutes apostasy....It is obligatory to apply the rules of apostasy upon such a person [i.e. death]. (Ad-Durrar 15/479)
Are you telling me that a poor ghetto kid cannot get a passport nor can he save up a measly $1000 for a plane ticket? You can earn that much working for McDonalds.

Take that money, flee the country, and come penniless to some Muslim country. Allah [swt] will provide, and many have suffered before you.

You can teach English and make a decent living in a Muslim country, just based on your accent.

Tell me: why is it that a young kid suddenly becomes a man firing a gun and facing enemies on the battlefield, but this same so-called 'young kid' cannot provide for himself in a peaceful country!? How in the world fighting easier than teaching English in a foreign country!?
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