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Default Re: Mandatory Military Service

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Originally Posted by shadha View Post
roberto: Currently most of the killing of Muslims in the Middle East and indeed world wide is by fellow Muslims

Ain't that the truth.

Vari: Others are focusing on how they see the US military (although we haven't mentioned Canada, or the UK) as the primary tool in a global campaign targetting Muslims.

If they approached the manner how Bruinrab did, by saying- maybe we shouldn't have mandatory military service but instead have the option of participating in another mandatory service to the country- such as Teach for America etc. then it wouldn't have gotten blown up. I think that's a fair idea. If these folks would have said something like that OR something to the effect of not wanting to join a military that is not a military of God or whatever, then fine. All the power to you. But that didn't happen. You have one dumb schmuck after the next make baseless accusations and generalizations about over a million people. Then you have the notorious one rambling on, with all the chutzpah in the world, on who is and is not of the Ummah [and then is going to edit his posts and tell a boldface lie about it]. Then you have the random, duah curses against everyone and their mom.

They love to differentiate when it's Muslims killing Muslims but can't do the same when it's non-Muslim against Muslims. They also allowed their bias attitudes against America to cloud their judgement and they begin to act as if only American soldiers have ever raped a girl. As if no one has just recently heard of groups of Muslims raping Muslim girls all in the name of 'honor'. Please. This is a common occurrence that I really have little patience with.


shadha-
Definitely agree... it's not about the military so much (although personally I think it's a good venue), but any sort of institution or project which removes kids from familiar cushy environments and sends them out to where their mettle is gonna be tested, while at the same time instilling a sense of community, responsibility, charity etc.

I have a lot of Mormon friends, and for all the jabs I take at them for their beliefs that I consider bizarre, they're a pretty... I dunno, 'above average' group of people. I think their missions tend to play a role in that... the fact they have to give up a year or two of their lives to learn another language, learn about another culture and work hard for what they see is a greater purpose. I'm all for the idea.
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