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Default Re: Mandatory Military Service

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Originally Posted by Bruinrab View Post
I strongly disagree. Shrug.
Why? Regardless of your personal opinions of either, from a logistic perspective it makes perfect sense.

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As a collective, there's no doubt that Nazi Germany, as a whole, was evil, as was Adolf Hitler. However, do I think that every German soldier was evil? No, honestly, I don't.
Neither do I. Do you think that made it OK for intelligent, aware people to wave flags and yell about "supporting OUR troops" while they went around the world committing atrocities?

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People do evil things under the orders of those in power, and for many people, power is intoxicating. Ever hear of the Stanford prison experiment?
I don't think that's analogous to a superior-subordinate paradigm. Ever heard of the Nuremberg defense?

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Hitler was evil. Bush is evil. Cheney is evil. Their foot soldiers who carry out orders out of fear, loyalty, or need are not evil - misguided, ignorant, indifferent, brainwashed, yes. But not evil.
You don't think any of them are evil?

What exactly do you define as "evil?"

See above, re: Nuremberg defense. At what point do supposedly intelligent adults cease to be responsible for their own actions?
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