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Old 04-25-2008, 09:45 AM
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Default Re: Enoch Powell: the Great Lie survives

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It means to support immigration when it was for the good of the economy and supporting the wealthy (who were white people) and then realising that white people didn't actually like the fact that black/brown/purple people were in their country and instead finding solace in being a hypocite.
Thanks for the definition it’s a pity that as usual you have not identified support for such

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Yes i know, he was wrong. This is exactly what i'm saying, if he went to India and became so wonderfully integrated in their culture, why did he deny them the right to express their beliefs in public?
He didn’t .


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“The fact that he and you can't look past your own values is disgusting and wanting to impose it on everyone else is what is racist.”
Unfounded insults demonstrate the weakness and bias of your position


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It wasn't funny then and it's not funny now
Then you were still 15 years from you birth

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Oh please, you protest against the propaganda of extreme Islamic clerics but you can't see it when it exists in your own culture?
Again you make wild rhetoric statement, with out any substantiation
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really?
Is that then best you can do in answer to “Because he did not blame coloured people per se”

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It doesn't require more than basic comprehension, because of the influx of immigrants, the rest of society couldn't obtain beds for childirth, couldn't get places in school for kids, communities changed, their poor plans and prospects obliterated (all from seeing a non-white person ) and even the employers favoured them.

The shortages applied to all, immigrants have the same rights for services,
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I suggest you don't tell me how to think. I'm not proud enough to assert my views as if they're set in stone. Like i said, if his values and intentions were innocent and I was wrong then he still seems sketchy in what he says.
Your unsolicited opinion of me was contradictory

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That's petty, I have no care for what colour of skin a person might be. Anyone who knows me, knows that.
Then be more careful in what you write, because I don't know you beyond that which you write

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Really? Look to the Rivers of Blood speech, you'll find plenty there.
Well that’s what you keep saying but you don’t identify the pertinent comments

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and yes he did support sending them back. He called for re-emigration.
But not forced re-immergration this is what he said:

Nobody can make an estimate of the numbers which, with generous assistance, would choose either to return to their countries of origin or to go to other countries anxious to receive the manpower and the skills they represent


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It's in the speech. He was scared that people like me, those born in 1985, would take over England. I'm still at it of course, that's what i devote my spare time to
Sure he was terrified :His speach was made in 1968 , rather a long time befor you were born or do you claim that people of that age thought the same as you
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