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Originally Posted by AliFazel
The way you worded the sentence -- "O' Ali give us rain" certainly appear horrible and blasphemous. --- Even Shia Alim will not condone this.
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Really??? Cite your proof.
In fact, you Shias always say things like that: "O Ali, give me strength". Even you Shias ask Ali [ra] directly for things that you want.
And why should asking Ali (ra) for rain be a problem for you. Is it not you who brings up the tawassul about the people asking the Prophet [s] and Ibn Abbas [ra] to make dua for rain...and you said that it's not a big deal how you word it, but what you mean by it...so why do you say this contradiction? According to your logic then there should be no problem in saying "Ya Ali grant us rain." What's the difference between that and saying "Ya Ali, grant us strength" or "Ya Ali, grant us protection" or "Ya Ali, remove our hardship"?
Is it not you who says YA ALI MUSHKIL KUSHA?
Even though Allah [swt] says that only HE can remove hardships from people!