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Originally Posted by AliFazel
No accusation to you -- Its a general speech -- those who claim they know what in the hearts of others and come out accusing others are liars - zalimeen.
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Although this thread is about Tawasul --- And I'd prefer to discuss tawasul only - this side issue has cropped up. Its natural considering the circumstance and the past hostilities between the two factions.
Lets stick to HARD LOGIC.
Every action depends on Intention .
A person prays, with intention to worship Allah ----OR ---- With intention, to show others that he is pious.
A person gives sadka, with intention to please Allah ---- OR ---- with intention, to show others that he is generous.
The reward or punishment depends on the intention - not on the act. ---- <RIGHT>
So when a person knows very well that Allah (SWT) controls all affair - and he goes to grave of Prophet (SAWWS), and says "Ya Rasool-il-lah Madad - a3na maglub"
or he goes to the grave of Ali-ibn abi talib and say, "Ya Ali madad - a3na maghlub".
LOGIC dictated that he is saying O' Rusool-il-lah help me, intercede for me before Allah.
Mostly, these people who go to Prophet (SAWWS) consider themselves as sinners and they believe that Allah will not accept their pleas. BUT, if they go through Prophet (SAW) there is a better chances of getting their pleas heard.
How can any kadhi, sheik, mufti, mullah, hafiz ul qur'an, or what ever big titles they hold, come out and tell us that they know what is in the hearts of these people?
How can they say, that these people are expecting prophet (SAWWS) or Ali (A) to grant them their wish, bypassing Allah (SWT) --- How can they claim to know what's there in the hearts of these people?
He is a liar who says he can read the hearts of others.
And He who accuses others of fisk without proof, is a Zalim and mischief monger.
UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCE - referring to any group of muslimeen as grave worshippers without knowledge of their belief and their intention is wrong and a big fasaat.
Finally --- Some sayied Told me this story - You will find it interesting
[Ttranslation from one language to another does not do justice – I hope you will see the beauty of this message]
The mufti, mullah, molvi who accuse others of crime without knowledge and understanding are no different that these namazis with filthy thoughts.
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If you say : ‘O Ali, give us rain!’, then this is Sarih al-Kufr – an explicit statement of Kufr, which does not accommodate Majaz. Just like the word Talaq, is an explicit statement of divorce, and if one says it to his wife even in jest, his wife is divorced. He cannot claim: I only intended it allegorically, whereas my intention was not to divorce her. Similarly, when one makes a statement of clear-cut apostasy, such as: O Ali, give us rain, then he becomes an apostate, and his claim that he intended something else would be of no use to him.