[Hanbali]

Ali Fazel, do not accuse me of lying. I did not deny that you believe that God is ultimately in control.

Rather, I merely said that you ask the Prophet [s] and Ali [ra] for help. You say "Ya Ali Maddad" and "Ya Ali, grant us rain". This is a statement of shirk and kufr which expels one outside the folds of Islam. There can be no majazi interpretation of statements of kufr.

Even the pagans used to say that ultimately Allah [swt] was the one who helped them, and that their idols were merely intermediaries. They would call out "ya uzza, grant us rain", even though they believed that ultimately it was Allah [swt] with whose permission everything was done.

As for the Prophet [s] being alive, we've discussed this a million times on this forum. Please don't keep bringing it up.