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Originally Posted by jinnzaman
I'm curious why you have this mentality. What events or reading of history lead you to this conclusion? Or is this something that Western pundits preach and you've just accepted it?
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ok, i doubt i'll get a chance to ask you the questions on chat anytime soon
let me just throw down my thought pattern, see what you can do with it
- I'm against muslims attacking the western way of life(keep in mind that the west also struggles with hyperliberation). And i'm against that because I dont like the fact that the west is destroying the muslim civilization. I dont wanna do to them what I dont want them doing to me. I wanna defend me but I dont wanna destroy them.
- "Islamic hegemony" to me sounds like an insidious plan to recruit all muslims of the world to sacrifice themselves to defend the muslims that are in direct conflict with the west-i.e arabs, pakistan, afghanistan, iran, some africans. So why should nations that are helped by the west - turks, balkans etc, and nations that have no direct conflict with the west - malaysia etc, sacrifice their interests for the sake of those nations who hardly care about them. And why should these nations sacrifice their interests for nations that have sold out their own people and nations that cant even unite among themselves.
- This also includes the "American muslim community" i.e the uncles of cair/isna etc. No matter how phony their patriotism sounds, they reserve the right to live a productive material life in this country. So why they should they use deceptive dawah techniques to sacrifice their interest for the sake of hegemony of those same nations - arab/paki/afghan/iran etc.
- the uncle system is eventually gonna go, but now there are real american muslims that are coming on the scene. People like Jeffrey Lang, Dr. Umar, Michael Wolfe...white americans...REAL americans. They reserve the right to be western, and they reserve the right not to compromise their westerness for the sake of the hegemony of arab/paki/afghan/iran muslims.
- So I think, you gotta let them be. You gotta leave them alone and let them do as they please.
- I myself am not American. I'm a pakistani fob, so my loyalties actually do lie with middle eastern, central/south asian muslims. But I have to recognize the right of American muslims to be American simply because the desis reserve their rights to be desi, arabs reserve their rights to be arab and iranians reserve theirs and africans reserve theirs etc.