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Originally Posted by Jamroll
Osama Bin Laden is more Qutbi than anything else.
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Bro, there is no such thing as "Qutbi" or "Qutbi Aqeedah".
Ash-Shaheed Sayyid Qutb [ra] was a hero of Islam, and the term Qutbi is merely used as a derogatory label by SPUBs (the S.S. extremists) with their ridiculously long PDFs.
Qutb [ra] was not a scholar, but he was a brave Muslim. His status is like Malcolm X (ra). Yes, we know that both of them made serious mistakes, but this does not mean that we deny them their high status of respect.
Bro, the S.S. just add the word al-Qutbi next to every Salafi they disagree with. So I'd be Hanbali al-Qutbi to them, even though I don't follow Sayyid Qutb [ra] !
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Originally Posted by Rambo
Hanabali your a really disrespectful person, i only asked a simple question why salafis respect saudi government?
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Bro, I never claimed to be a respectful person.
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bin laden is not a salafi even i know that.
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Bin Ladin would be identified by a neutral third party as "Salafi", since his aqeedah when it comes to Sifat and other things is in line with Salafis. Yet, of course I would condemn him as a Khariji myself, but that doesn't mean that OBL would say that he himself is a Khariji. No, he and the people who love him claim to be Salafi.
What you need to realize, Mr. Rambo Khan, is that Salafis are all over the spectrum. You have Salafis who love the Saudi government and are Murjia, defending it no MATTER WHAT (such as SPUBS / SS) and Salafis who have become Khawaarij and who hate the Saudi government and declare takfeer on it (such as Al-Qaeda and other Jihadist extremists) and then you have the moderate Salafis like myself who are in the middle of those two extreme positions.
Yes, *I* would say that the Murjia and the Khawaarij are not really Salafis, but they themselves would never identify themselves by saying "hi, I'm fulan and I'm one of the murjia" or "hi, I'm fulan and I'm one of the khawaarij." No, they think they are the "real" Salafis.