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Old 09-01-2007, 12:27 PM
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Default Re: Turks elect Islamist president

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Originally Posted by MossadConspiracy View Post
nothing is inconceivable, but if you look at the current world that we live in and the ones who are agitating or fighting for something like khilafa (not the traditional concept of course), they arent models of modernity. We are not talking about the Muslim Brotherhood, the Islamic parties in Turkey or other muslim countries, the mainstream Islamic institutions anywhere, etc. We are talking about illiterate rednecks with guns and swords, fanatics with suicide belts and rifles and messianic suicidal doctrines, and crazy political parties like Hizb Al Tahrir or Ghuraba' (wierdos), which attract the refuse of the Muslim communities in the United Kingdom and America (but may have a different role elsewhere). These are fringe people that dont motivate or inspire the rest of Islam

Then other than that, there is a huge reserve of people who say that they support khilafa, but have no idea whom they would want to have that seat or how a government like that should be created, or where, and are not doing anything to further this cause that they claim except talking alot. People like that will never achieve anything if things continue as they are.

Maybe theres a tiny number of people who fit that profile that you described, but i've never heard of any of them. I'd be very interested to hear more about them and their organizations. I think alot of the muslims I described who talk and do nothing would be more motivated to actually do something if there were organizations that actually offered a positive vision and a good future, rather than just Bin Laden the psycho terrorist, The Taliban which led their already destroyed country into even deeper poverty and destruction, the wild fanatics in Iraq chopping people's heads off and blowing up mosques and markets on a daily basis, and 19 year old unemployable losers in London. Thats a vacuum that could be filled, it would be interesting to see it happen

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If education makes the likes of Bush and the rest of the kafir world, then sorry, no one wants that education. We want the 'right of life' more than education. Education is not necessary to live. The Americans, the British, their fellows - who are they? They are 'animals in the form of humans', in fact worse than animals. They have given more destruction to the world than scientific developments and by the way who the hell wants any scientific developments and technologies if he doesn't have the right to live. Your western terrorists are destroying whole of the Muslims world, at some places physically and at others 'intellectually', where they don't want to invade e.g in Pakistan, they impose their 'Agents', the likes of Musharraf and now Bay Nazir Bhutto..they protect the life of their dogs but kill us as if we are worse than dogs. Your scientific developments and technologies didn't give life to the poor Japanese whom you attacked with nuclear weapons, innocent Vietnamese whom you butchered as if they were sacrifice animals, unarmed civilians of Iraq and Afghanistan whom you are everyday killing indiscriminately...
your techonologies are not giving them life, instead taking their lives away. You are giving the world more weapons and bloodshed than any good you can give from your so called 'education' and 'literacy'.
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