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Old 03-14-2008, 03:58 AM
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Default Re: The Agenda behind the kafir support for Islamic Evolutionism

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This is the religion and spirituality, you should post articles from Islamic scholars here.
That's what I'm doing.

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That's what I'm asking for, articles from real, trained Islamic Scholars. Thanks.
Seyyid Hussein Nasr, whom I quoted above, is an Islam expert in a US university. He is both a scientist and an Islamic studies professor. There could be no one more qualified to talk about this subject than him.

Harun Yahya is a well-informed Muslim intellectual who makes compelling arguments. He is also worthy of quote.

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So far the only thing I've been able to find is that, since all things are possible by the will of Allah (swt), then it's not impossible to think that he created species by means of Evolution. Believing such certianly doesn't invalidate ones faith. On the issue of man, the oppinion is different because the Quran specifically mentions that Man is a special creation of Allah (swt). That's all I can find on the issue.
It may not be impossible but it is not the divine truth that you can force other people to accept either. Therefore alternative views should be taught in schools as legitimate too. The holes that emerge every day in the theory should be taught. See my thread about the Homo Habilis myth that was debunked last year for instance. People must not be taught that creation is "only religious dogma that serious scientists do not consider." This does undermine and has always undermined their faith in God.

There are numerous verses in the Qur'an which say that nature is full of the signs of Allah. They imply or maybe explicitly state that we must find God through scientific research and contemplation about nature. Then I don't understand how as a Muslim you believe that adding God to science is dishonest. It's quite the opposite from the Quranic and Islamic viewpoint.

30:22 And among His Signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the variations in your languages and your colours: verily in that are Signs for those who know.

The verse ends as "for those who know", not for those who "suppose" (that God exists) but for those who "know" that. In our creed, God's existence is objective reality and it is invalid to claim that we must exclude Him from the universe and its scientific research to be "honest". Quite the contrary, since His existence is obvious, it is dishonest to think that the universe can exist without Him.

Regarding the creation of a "bird" through sudden creation and not evolution by God, there is this clear verse, in which God speaks to Jesus:

5:110 ... Thou makest out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, by My leave, and thou breathest into it and it becometh a bird by My leave,

Is there any other verse which clearly states that unlike what happened here, God created other things through gradual evolution, especially through random mutations? No, there is not.
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